Rem 1100 problem

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12 Gague

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I have two Remington 1100 with the same problem. One is a 3" mag and the otehr is a 2 3/4" . The shell coming from the magazine tube will not trip the elevator/carrier release and lift the shell into alignment to enter the chamber. The bolt locks back with the shell on the carrier/elevator in the down position. Both of these guns are spotless clean and I see no visible worn/broken parts. The mag follower is clean and mag tube is slick inside. The shell really snaps back like it should coming from the mag tube when the bolt is pulled back to load to the chamber. The Trigger units have not been disassembled and reassembled wrong. Any educated guesses or real cure for this other than another 1100. Any help will be appreciated.
I always hear that the 1100 is near perfect but I have my doubts with these two.
12 Gague thanks you in advance for any clue to fix them.
 
Try a new magazine spring, the magazine spring is what flings the shell back hard enough to trip the bolt release.
 
1100 feeding problem

Thanks for the info HSMITH.
I replaced the mag spring and it does not correct the problem. No different from before. Tried it on both guns and same old same...

Whats next?

12Gague
 
The trip that locks the carrier is probably engaging the tab on the back of the carrier too much. Basically out of time. This is an easy adjustment if one is familiar with the system. When the shell comes out of the mag. tube, it hits the tab and releases the carrier the same way as when you push in the carrier release button to chamber a shell. Bending the tab that has the projections very slightly to the rear of the carrier and checking that there is no burr on the tab that projects from the rear of the carrier should cure your problem. Again, be very careful if you decide to do this procedure yourself. Bending the latch too much can be just as bad as too little. The carrier would not stay latched correctly.
Take care;
 
1100 problems

Thanks for the tip Cal 50.
I`ll take a close look at that catch and see if it that will correct the problem by adjusting it slightly.
Thanks again. I`ll report back with the results.

12Gague
 
1100 problem

Cal 50,
In looking at the little tab that engages the latch, there is only about .0015 " engagemnet and I would be afraid to lessen that any more. Nothing seems to be worn in that area.
The thing that bothers me about these two guns is that they were working fine one time when used and the next time they don`t work at all and both having identical malfunction.
I had one person to suggest that the plunger and spring behind the latch was too strong and not letting it disengage. That seems a bit farfetched as springs don`t get stronger with age that I know of.
Next suggestion other than a tradein for a old Savage.

12Gague
 
hi 12 gague,,, just curious,, is this happening when you are hand cycling,,,,or while the gun is cycling under recoil??? my 1100 will do what you are talking about when i hand cycle unless i do it really fast,,,,but it works fine when it is cycling when a shell goes off...just a thought,,and my .02


YMMV ocharry
 
1100 Rem problem

Ocharry,
You hit on what it WAS doing. Only when you hand cycle the action to load it the first time. I wasn`t really clear on that to begin with but that was the problem. These two 1100s are early production and have lots of use before I got them. They seemed to be spotless clean, but....
The cure is rather obscure due to the design of the action with its hidden parts that accumulate all the old oil, dirt and burned powder way down in the bottom of the trigger assembly. The carrier latch plunger and spring are well hidden within the metal housing, all old dirt and grime gets in the spring inside the hollow plunger and turns to a very stiff putty that reduces the spring action to about 1/4 of its normal action, thereby causing it to be about three times as strong to compress by the carrier latch. Removing the latch, plunger and spring and cleaning it was the cure for that malfunction in both of mine.
Your milage may vary.
Thanks to all that responded.

12Gague
 
The 1100 isn't MEANT to feed when you hand cycle a round from magazine to chamber. The proper drill is to drop a shell into the open (latched back) action, trip the action release, and chamber the shell, then load the magazine. The gun will feed the second round when the action functions on firing. Hand cycling is a nono.
(assuming a clean gun.)
 
check your seals and the rubber oring inside the forarm and make sure the rings are put together right, clean the gas ports inside the barrel sleeve and very light lube, you can stretch that magazine spring a little and see if thats shoots em farther back steve
 
I may have misunderstood. Does this malfunction happen when the gun is FIRED, not just when it is hand-cycled? Then my advice given above is moot.
I suggest a new recoil spring, and a thorough cleansing of that area as well as the trigger group recesses. Multiple spray flushing or ultrasonic cleaning, if available at a local gunsmith or machine shop.
 
My 1100 loads just fine when I hand-cycle from the magazine to the chamber. Shotguns made to be only loaded through the chamber won't feed a round from the mag to the chamber by hand-cycling. (eg., old SKBs.)
 
True, an 1100 that's well broken-in, worked with vigor, will often chamber a shell that's fed from the magazine by working the action briskly. The fact remains that this is NOT the way the thing is supposed to work, and if it doesn't, it's not the gun's fault.
 
Eureka! I see the error of my ways. 1100 manual does call for dropping first round directly into the chamber. What apparently confused me is the instruction for unloading calls for cycling shells through the action, directly from the magazine. I always bypassed dropping the shell into the chamber.
 
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Having fired a few million rounds through shotguns over the past several decades, I guess I just got "lax" about manual-reading. Didn't really have any motivation to read the manual until I saw this very thread.
 
similar problem feeding shot #3

I seem to have a problem with my "vintage Rem 1100." It ejects shot # 1 and loads shot #2 just fine. But when I take my second shot, # 3 fails to leave the magazine tube. # 2 ejects normally. I tried replacing the magazine tube but this did not correct the problem.

The problem happens both during firing as well as manual cycling of the action.

Upon closer inspection it appears as if the "Interceptor Latch Spring" does not properly engage the Interceptor Latch, keeping tension on the latch so that its "tab" near the magazine tub remains down and out of the way allowing for the final round to be protrude slightly from the magazine for proper feeding. The interceptor latch spring appears to be fixed in place such that I would not be able to easily remove it. I might be able to bend it back in position but initial (gentle) attempts have not succeeded. This was my grandfather's firearm and was purchased (I believe) back in the 1960's. Any suggestions would be most welcome.

THREAD's ORIGINAL POSTER CURE =

"The cure is rather obscure due to the design of the action with its
hidden parts that accumulate all the old oil, dirt and burned powder
way down in the bottom of the trigger assembly. The carrier latch
plunger and spring are well hidden within the metal housing, all old
dirt and grime gets in the spring inside the hollow plunger and turns
to a very stiff putty that reduces the spring action to about 1/4 of its
normal action, thereby causing it to be about three times as strong to
compress by the carrier latch. Removing the latch, plunger and spring
and cleaning it was the cure for that malfunction in both of mine.
 
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