I hope this will mean the 45 4" will show up then, I still havent even seen one much less had a chance to buy one. I love my 45 7 1/2 hunter and would love to add a short tube model. I also hope they get the cylinders drilled right this time......I will wait and see how the new product is working before I rush out and buy a new one though, how about one set up for 10mm & 40S&W with moon clips to compete against the S&W 610, they seem to sell well? I would be up for one of thoes as well.