Red dot reflex sight at night

Irish B

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Looking to do some more tac outfitting on my 870. I'm looking at red dot reflex sights but am unsure of their night performance. I already have a bright led tac light mounted. Will this provide enough illumination to make the red dot sight functional? The primary function of this gun is home defense and popping bean bag rounds at overly friendly bear. I use winchester pdx1 rounds for home defense and bean bags for bear so it doesnt need to be thread the needle accurate but id like it to be functional and fairly accurate
 
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Red dot sights will be fine. They are adjustable as far as illumination goes. Some of the "auto adjusting" ones don't even need user input to give you the right illumination for background lighting.

Which sights are you looking at specifically?
 
Assuming your light is 100-200 lumens, you should be fine for interior HD distnaces.

Outside is another matter. Most red dot sights work by reflected a led dot off of a coating on the inside of a lens, sort of like mirrored sunglasses. That coating is sufficient to reflect the dot to your eye, but also stops the transmission of some light through the optic. As such, regular red dot optics tend to look prematurely or overly dark in low light situations...such as at dusk where you notice that you can see a distant object much bettre with your naked eye than by looking through the optic. So it has a sort of "dark optic" effect. Eotech's holosight does not have this issue.

So you need to be able to overcome the light transmission deficit by having a bright light. Different red dots coatings and size will affect your ability to see through them. The smaller the tube holding the dot, the less light that will pass through it, as in photography with aperatures.

I have an Aimpoint Micro T-1 on a couple of long guns. Using a 200 lumen (manufacturer rated) Olight Warrior flashllight, I found that I could properly and quickly identify animals out to 50 yards or so. At 70-75 yards, identifications were difficult, sometimes not possible, and took much longer. The earthtones of deer, coyotes, etc. would not reflect much of the flashlight light back sufficiently to overcome the coating in the lens, though I could identify the animals with my naked eye at that range. Of course more reflective colors or surfaces were able to be seen and identified at greater distances. I seem to recall that I had no problem identifying steel silhouette targets painted white out to nearly 100 yards. You probably cannot count on your possible intruder to wear clothing that is highly reflective.

So inside your home, you should probably be fine with just about any red dot optic and a decent light. Where you will be hindered is outside and at distances well beyond most defensive shootings.

You should be made aware also that a bright light reflecting off white walls at short range can wash out the red dot much like daylight sunshine can. That means that you may need to run your dot at a high brightness level. When you run a red dot on higher brightness levels, you will likely have "retical bloom." This means that your 2 MOA dot or 4 MOA will be much larger than their stated size. Should you need to defend yourself outside, at night, and at greater ranges, the bright reticle is a hinderance. Not only will the reticle be so much larger, the high brightness will be such a contrast to the darkness that it may be difficult to see things beyond the dot. As noted above, an auto adjusting red dot would solve these problems.

Before you buy a sight, verify first that the sight is capable of handling the recoil of the shotgun. If it isn't capable, you may find the sight breaking internally. You may lose the red dot if the parts directing the LED fail entirely. You may find the parts directing the LED have simply have been knocked out of proper alignment and the red dot seen anywhere on the front lens other than its proper center location. The sight may fail entirely if the circuitry is damaged by the recoil.
 
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Well it's a red dot reflex so it has no tube at all. One like this

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OK just sent off for my grocery list of 870 mods. I already have a specops double shock absorbing butt stock and tac light on the gun. Went ahead and ordered a tube extension, pistol style forgrip, scope mount, side mount shell holder, and the red dot reflex sight. Let the zombie invasion proceed!
 
Yes, but whose sight is it? Make and model.

No tube? Fine. That is but one issue, isn't it? Looks from the pic you provided that the glass is heavily tinted.
 
Yeah. I'll try it out and if it doesn't work out I'll send it back. It says it has four selectable green and four red dot and cross hair designs and that it is illuminated with adjustable brightness so looks like were in good shape. Will post pics when all the parts come in

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