Red Chinese - TOO CLOSE for comfort

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Now the administration is moving Mainlanders into the neighborhood. Oh joy!
Jeff

June 21, 2000
China news office to overlook Pentagon
By Rowan Scarborough
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
     Communist China's state-run news service has purchased a seven-story apartment building overlooking the Pentagon and will evict the residents to turn the 32-unit building into its Washington news bureau.
     A notice to tenants said the Pentagon Ridge sale to Xinhua was completed June 15.
     The building would give the Xinhua News Agency a significant news gathering presence in Washington.
     Specialists in Chinese affairs expressed surprise yesterday that the U.S. government would allow it because Xinhua is directed by the People's Republic of China and is described by Western observers as a front for the Ministry of State Security (MSS), China's version of the Soviet KGB. The ministry conducts security operations at home and espionage abroad.
     The specialists say Xinhua's high-ground location in the new building, near Interstate 395, could provide the opportunity to covertly monitor Pentagon comings and goings.
     "This is shades of the Soviet grab for high ground in the '70s and '80s after we let them move into their new facilities on top of Georgetown," said Rick Fisher, a China authority with the Jamestown Foundation. "We soon discovered lasers and other listening devices for the new Soviet residents."
     The Beijing government insists that Xinhua does not collect intelligence.
     Jiang Liu, Xinhua's Washington bureau chief, hotly denied yesterday that his agency conducts spying.
     "It's a smear," he said. "You have no evidence of that. You cannot say that," he said. "This is groundless. It's nonsense. . . . How can we spy on your Pentagon. I don't think your Pentagon is too vulnerable. Your Pentagon is very secure."
     Tom Bellit, a tenant at Pentagon Ridge, said two real estate agents and a Xinhua official met with tenants Monday night. They told the renters that month-to-month tenants would have to leave soon, while those holding a lease could stay to the end or accept a buyout. Mr. Bellit said the Chinese offered a moving allowance.
     "They were up front," he said. "They were approachable. But they were also direct in their intentions. They want the units open."
     Mr. Bellit said that from his sixth-floor apartment he has a view of the Pentagon "E-ring," the outermost corridor where offices are located for senior Defense Department officials, including Defense Secretary William S. Cohen.
     Ying-Ying Li, a Weichert Realtors agent who attended the meeting, said Xinhua intends to use the building as living space and bureau headquarters.
     "I don't want you to write this story," Ms. Ying-Ying said. "Relations between the two countries are very sensitive. I'm telling you to be cautious."
     She said the Xinhua bureau is now located in an apartment building in Rosslyn that lacks central air conditioning. "It's really bad for people's health because they work long hours," she said.
     Mr. Fisher — a former staffer to Rep. Christopher Cox, California Republican, who led last year's congressional investigation that reported widespread Chinese espionage in this country — said Xinhua has always been a candidate for espionage. "No Xinhua reporter has been bounced from the U.S. over an accusation of espionage," Mr. Fisher said.
     "But it is highly accepted that as part of its broad mosaic method of espionage that Xinhua reporters or other workers, or even facilities, would be candidates for espionage missions by the [Beijing government]."
     Mr. Fisher thinks it "significant" that three years ago the People's Republic of China moved its consulate from relatively low-lying Dupont Circle to a higher elevation in Georgetown, where electronic surveillance could be more effective.
     China's extensive espionage against the United States — including the theft of top-secret nuclear weapons designs — has been documented by Mr. Cox's bipartisan report, public statements by FBI officials and several books.
     In the book "Year of the Rat," authors Edward Timperlake and William C. Triplett II called Xinhua one of several "common fronts" for the Ministry of State Security. "For many years, the upper floors of the Xinhua building has been the MSS station in Hong Kong," they wrote.
     Mr. Triplett said in an interview that with modern sophisticated, wireless listening devices, the Pentagon is vulnerable.
     "They're spies," he said. "This is a techno-spy's paradise on earth to have complete control of your own building with a line of sight to the Pentagon. The idea the Chinese would allow us to have anything comparable is preposterous. This is a major security breach and it goes hand in glove with other security breaches."
     Until Thursday, Xinhua's president was Guo Chaoren, a member of China's powerful Central Committee of the ruling Communist Party. Mr. Guo, who died of an undisclosed illness, oversaw 7,000 employees and bureaus in more than 100 countries. A Xinhua official declined to say who the new president would be.
     Mr. Fisher, citing press dispatches and Chinese government documents, said Xinhua had sought to branch out in recent years. "For several years, Xinhua has tried to expand its business by expanding its international reporting and by trying to compete with other news services by trying to offer straight news as opposed to just the government line it offered for decades."
     Vincent Cannistraro, a former CIA intelligence officer and now a consultant on security, scoffs at doubts that the Chinese conduct spying operations here. He asks: "Is the pope a Catholic?"
     "All state organs in China have been tasked by various intelligence agencies to carry out intelligence missions," he says. Everyone in the Chinese government plays a role in the government when they're asked, and that includes Xinhua."
     Mr. Cannistraro says Beijing would likely use a front company if it wanted to attempt to intercept Pentagon communications. "But could that be used by Xinhua? Of course."
 
Overlooking the Pentagon.

Lazermics

MADs

IR

passive receivers

Great place for our no.1 threat in the world to be.
 
Shin, For us low tech guys,such as myself what are MADs,lazermics, etc?

I remember reading about the russians bombarding our embassy with micro-waves and enabling them to filter out individual conversations for intelligence gathering.

I am sure technology has progressed much since then....

I can't imagine our enemies being given the cat bird seat like this!

ordo
 
They didn't buy "us," Jack99, they bought this Administration.

If the sheeple get too complacent about China, we're all going to get microwaved. That country is bound and determined to be the #1 superpower, and their generals have made it clear they're getting ready to go to war with us.

But, the stock market's good, so who cares?

Dick
 
A lasermic uses a laser beam to range a window several times a second.
The sounds of conversation, or any sound inside a targeted room cause the window to vibrate. These vibrations are measured by the ranging gear.
The paterns of vibration are decifered by the microprosesor and can be played back as understandable speech.



[This message has been edited by Shin-Tao (edited June 22, 2000).]
 
Thank you, Shin-Tao.
I had no idea such technology existed.
God save us from our elected traitors and our enemies!
ordo
 
Monkeyleg, I think I will disagree.
They have bought US!
Probably 75% of the mdse sold at Wal-Mart is from RED China.
And Americans who have not yet figured out that the federal reserve is a PRIVATE corporation running our monetary policy are wondering why they have to shop at discount stores to make the money go further.
We have been bought. Like so many fools.
And we will bypass an American neighborhood store to save a dime by buying Chinese crap.

Always remember that when houses were $18000, back in the 60's, the mortgage rates were 5.25% and the banks paid 2% on savings accounts. Now the house is $150,000 and the mortgage is pushing 9% and the savings rates are still 2%

We no longer have enough people who are actually finacially independent enough to resist this trend so we have lost the economic war to China.

AND our politicians will sell us out for a sandwich.

More power to the Chinese. They think in centuries instead of to the next paycheck.
 
Geez, I just read the Lazermic definition.
Maybe there IS still hope. If they train that on a Pentagon window, they will learn all our doughnut ordering protocols.

They may even pick up a few "early retirement" plans.

Has anyone been to a Govt building in the past 15 years and NOT seen a full decoration committee for EVERY holiday using OUR paid time to hang paper bunting all over?
 
Now let's see what happens . If they get as much evidence against them as they had against Randy Weaver how many snipers will surround their new building ?
MISSER KRINTON ! MISSER KRINTON !! Prease to removing agents flom our area ! If you do not the next check wirr not crear .

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SASS AMERICAN LEGION NRA
 
Spying on the Pentagon? Eavesdropping, etc.?

Been done - with varying levels of success - as long ago as the 1960s and 1970s.

I know of no reason why such attempts would cease. Is this one such attempt?

It's hard to hide (big) antennas successfully; however, it is fairly easy to deceive others as to the intended use.

Then the game goes to "what's possible?".

[This message has been edited by Dennis (edited June 21, 2000).]
 
FOLLOW-UP STORY

China's move of news office broke law
Rowan Scarborough and Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Published 6/22/00


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The State Department said yesterday that China failed to notify the U.S. government, as required by law, that its state-run news service purchased a seven-story apartment building that overlooks the Pentagon for use as its Washington bureau.
State Department sources say some officials want to block the sale, which was concluded June 15, on national security grounds.
Xinhua is linked to China's extensive intelligence-gathering network. The sources said U.S. intelligence failed to detect the sale beforehand.
The State Department made the statement after The Washington Times disclosed Xinhua's purchase and its intelligence links.
Jiang Liu, Xinhua's Washington bureau chief, told Agence France-Presse that the first story in The Times was "nonsense."
"It's a smear," he said. "This morning all our staff members read the story. They're laughing at it. It's just ridiculous."
At the State Department, however, nobody was laughing.
"The Embassy of the People's Republic of China is required under the Foreign Missions Act to obtain prior authorization from the State Department for any purchase or sales of real property of the Xinhua News Agency," the State Department said. "The embassy was notified of this in 1985.
"The department has no record of it providing notification of its plans to purchase the Virginia property or of the department granting authorization. The department is in contact with the Chinese government regarding this issue to assure that all appropriate interests are addressed."
Officials said the department has begun discussions with Beijing about why the Beijing government did not comply with the 1985 Foreign Missions Act. Under the law, the State Department treats the state-run Xinhua News Agency as it does the Chinese Embassy. As such, officials said, the embassy in Washington was required to notify the United States of the pending purchase.
"It's a clear requirement they provide notification and they obtain prior authority for purchase or sale," said a State Department official, who asked not to be named. "We have no record of them providing this."
The official said he did not know whether Secretary of State Madeleine K. Albright would raise the issue during her current trip to Beijing.
At the Pentagon, spokeswoman Susan Hansen said, "The Defense Department is not in a position to monitor real-estate transactions. We don't have any independent information of the location of this news agency and what they plan to do there."
The Pentagon issued a statement that its building is "protected by a variety of security systems."
The State Department's concern was raised after The Times reported yesterday that Xinhua had purchased the 32-unit Pentagon Ridge Apartments last week as living and working headquarters for its employees. Tenants were told they must move out.
Zhang Yuanyuan, a spokesman at the Chinese Embassy in Washington, contended yesterday that Xinhua did not need State Department approval to buy the apartment building.
"We don't need the permission," he said. "[Xinhua is] a company. As long as they go through the legally required procedures. The law does not require them to go through a different procedure. We have been following the laws and regulations of the U.S. in Virginia all along. If something is wrong, the lawyers should know that."
The Xinhua News Agency referred press inquiries to its attorney, who could not be reached yesterday.
Mr. Zhang took particular issue with the dispatch in yesterday's editions of The Times, which quoted China and intelligence experts as saying Beijing uses Xinhua to collect intelligence.
"I found it rather disturbing," he said. "There were many characterizations in your article that are very, very wrong. . . . The Xinhua News Agency is a very responsible news agency. It's one of the five largest agencies in the world. I think the United Nations has been using the wire service of Xinhua for many, many years."
According to Clinton administration officials, neither the FBI nor other U.S. law-enforcement and intelligence agencies knew in advance that Xinhua had purchased the Pentagon Ridge building. In two past cases, the FBI and U.S. National Security Agency, which conducts electronic eavesdropping, notified the State Department about Chinese real-estate purchases in advance of the sales. In one instance, a sale was blocked on national security grounds.
"The intelligence community would have said no to this sale," said one official.
From the building overlooking the Pentagon, a telescope allows a peek into windows on the southern side of the Pentagon, the officials said. The apartment building's sixth and seventh floors have a clear line of sight toward the Pentagon.
With electronic snooping equipment, technicians in the building could collect computer emanations — low-power signals that are broadcast from computer screens — from the building, the officials said.
Under certain favorable weather conditions, microphones could pick up conversations in Pentagon offices within sight of the building by sensing the slight vibrations on windows caused by conversations. The building could provide a vantage point from which electronic spies could pick up transmissions from microphones placed covertly inside the Pentagon.
Not long ago a Russian intelligence officer was caught picking up electronic transmissions from a microphone planted in a seventh-floor conference room.
Xinhua, pronounced "shin-wa," translates to New China News Agency. The agency takes part in formulating Chinese foreign policy in meetings of the Communist Party Politburo's Foreign Affairs Leading Group. Said one U.S. official yesterday: "Xinhua is not an Associated Press of China."
The Pentagon yesterday issued a statement on security measures.
"Since the erection of the Pentagon more than 50 years ago, defense officials have realized the building could be a target for intelligence activities," the statement said. "For that reason, the Pentagon is protected by a variety of security systems. In addition, policies and procedures are in place that govern the manner in which the perimeter is protected. Various technical measures thwart attempts to monitor sensitive activities in the building.
"To protect their usefulness, we cannot detail these security measures — other than to point out we fully utilize secure telephones and secure inner offices. Suffice it to say, we constantly monitor our 'fence lines' for any activity which poses a threat to [Defense Department] personnel, information and operations — especially with rapid technological advances today."
Kenneth deGraffenreid, former National Security Council intelligence director, said the Reagan administration and Congress created the State Department's Office of Foreign Missions to deal with this kind of security issue. The office was "a key element of our systematic approach to protecting the nation's vital secrets from foreign espionage."
Nevertheless, he said, the fact that the office was not informed about Chinese plans to purchase the building by U.S. intelligence "is another example of the administration's inattention and denigration of the building blocks of a good security system."

• Ben Barber contributed to this report.
 
So there may be hope, if we can tie this up till the "NEW" administration....... :rolleyes:

The economy is only "SO GOOD" because our military is 50% of what it used to be, and there is little to no advancement potential there, so nobody is getting paid enough to sniff at!

The economy is only so good because our border patrol is a skeleton of what it used to be, thus the impending border war!

I'm definantly not crying for Reaganomics, but Jesus H. Christ, our military readiness at the base where I am stationed is pathetic. I counted some tail numbers for a couple of weeks, and only about 25% of the aircraft here actually fly!!!!!

My medical command nearly shut down when we had to deploy 50 people! We are so short on cooks, the galley is closed on weekends and holidays leaving E-1's through E-3's who don't get paid to eat on the economy without a single Hot meal for 2-3 days!

Don't fall into the lies, our economy is NOT THAT GOOD! Someone lobs a few missles at us, or decides to take a shot at one of our boats in the gulf, and the economy goes down the tubes!

Do you realize our ships put to sea without a full complement of Tomohawk missles, because the administration has used them up with their "sanitary" warfare! And consistently approved no funds for replacement.

Do you realize our carrier battle groups stop and trade off munitions with each other, because there is not enough to go around!

Do you realize that we are wearing out our new warships and aircraft twice as fast because operational tempo is still very high, but we have half the fleet we used to for the same amount of deployed time!

Yes people are getting very rich in the stock market, but so did the Austrians, Polish, French and many others before they were walked over by the Germans at the outset of WWII!

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I thought I'd seen it all, until a 22WMR spun a bunny 2 1/4 times in the air!
 
I dont know why people are just now raising concerns about the Chinese occupping space close to our gov.Hell,they,ve had an office at 1600 Penn.Ave.for almost 8yrs.now!!!!
 
This is actually a Good sign. It means our government has not yet been 100% penetrated. One more election could do it though.
 
Well, I guess this means that my BA in Chinese might someday be good for more than ordering Dim Sum and getting me on survelliance lists...

Hen Hao!



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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by duck hunt:
Well, I guess this means that my BA in Chinese might someday be good for more than ordering Dim Sum and getting me on survelliance lists...
Hen Hao!
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Yes . It could get you an audience with the new "Plesident." AND!!!( be still my beating heart ) you could be invited to spend a night in the Rincoln Bedloom .



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TOM
SASS AMERICAN LEGION NRA
 
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