Red Alert: SB2099 passed into law today!

Meat-Hook

New member
Im listening to Alex Jones right now. A caller just
advised that Senate Bill 2099 passed into law today.

This is the bill that requires ALL FIREARMS/handuns in the United
States to be REGISTERED with the IRS.

The caller said the status can be conformed at:
www.senate.gov

Can anyone else confirm that it is now law, and that come tax time all
guns in the US must be registered with your income tax forms??
Meat-Hook

All times are E
 
I just tried the link and it showed no action on the bill since february.
crankshaft
paranoia is a DAM good thing to have when they actually are out to get You!!!!
 
Juan:

Since your quick with the "paranioa" comments, then you must have proof-positive that it DIDNT, pass into law.

....right?

Regardless of what you did or did not see on the site.

Since it just passed, they may post it tomorrow????

MH.
 
S 2099 IS

106th CONGRESS

2d Session

S. 2099

To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require the registration of handguns, and for other
purposes.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

February 24, 2000

Mr. REED introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on
Finance

A BILL

To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to require the registration of handguns, and for other
purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of
America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Handgun Safety and Registration Act of 2000'.

SEC. 2. REGISTRATION OF HANDGUNS.

(a) HANDGUN INCLUDED IN DEFINITION OF FIREARM-

(1) IN GENERAL- Section 5845(a) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (defining
firearm) is amended by striking `and (8) a destructive device' and inserting `(8) a
handgun; and (9) a destructive device'.

(2) DEFINITION OF HANDGUN- Section 5845 of the Internal Revenue Code of
1986 (relating to definitions) is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(n) HANDGUN-

`(1) IN GENERAL- The term `handgun' means any weapon (including a starter gun)
which--

`(A) is designed to or may be readily converted to expel a projectile by the
action of an explosive, and

`(B) has a short stock and is designed to be held and fired by the use of a single
hand.

`(2) DISASSEMBLED PARTS INCLUDED- Such term shall also include the frame
or receiver of any such weapon, and any combination of parts from which a handgun
can be assembled if such parts are in the possession or under the control of a person.

`(3) EXCLUSION- Such term shall not include a firearm classified as `any other
weapon' under subsection (e).'.

(b) TRANSFER TAX IMPOSED ON HANDGUNS- Section 5811(a) of the Internal
Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to rate) is amended by inserting `or as a handgun under
section 5845(a)(8)' after `section 5845(e)'.

(c) TAX ON MAKING FIREARMS IMPOSED ON HANDGUNS- Section 5821(a) of
the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to rate) is amended by inserting `, except, the tax
on any firearm classified as a handgun under section 5845(a)(8) shall be at the rate of $50 for
each such firearm made' after `firearm made'.

(d) IMPORTATION POLICY CONTINUED-

(1) IN GENERAL- Section 5844 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to
importation) is amended by adding at the end the following: `This section shall not apply
to any firearm classified as a handgun under section 5845(a)(8).'.

(2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT- Section 925(d)(3) of title 18, United States
Code, is amended by inserting `(without regard to paragraph (8) thereof)' after `section
5845(a)'.

(e) SHARING OF REGISTRATION INFORMATION WITH STATE AND LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES-

(1) IN GENERAL- Section 6103(o) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to
disclosure of returns and return information with respect to certain taxes) is amended
by adding at the end the following:

`(3) TAXES IMPOSED ON TRANSFER OF HANDGUNS- Returns and return
information with respect to taxes imposed by part II of subchapter A of chapter 53
(relating to tax on transferring firearms) on any firearm classified as a handgun under
section 5845(a)(8) shall be available in an on-line format for inspection by or disclosure
to officers and employees of--

`(A) any Federal law enforcement agency, and

`(B) any State or local law enforcement agency,

whose official duties require such inspection or disclosure.'.

(2) CONFORMING AMENDMENTS- Section 6103(p)(4) of the Internal Revenue
Code of 1986 is amended--

(A) in the matter preceding subparagraph (A)--

(i) by striking `or (o)(1)' and inserting `(o)(1), or (o)(3)(A)',

(ii) by striking `or (l)(6)' and inserting `(l)(6)',

(iii) by inserting `or (o)(3)(B),' after `(16),', and

(B) in subparagraph (F)(i)--

(i) by striking `or (l)(6)' and inserting `(l)(6)', and

(ii) by inserting `or (o)(3)(B),' after `(16),', and

(C) in subparagraph (F)(ii), by striking `or (o)(1)' and inserting `, (o)(1), or
(o)(3)(A)'.

(f) TRANSITION RULE FOR NONREGISTERED HANDGUNS-

(1) IN GENERAL- Any person possessing any firearm classified as a handgun under
section 5845(a)(8) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 not registered in the National
Firearms Registration and Transfer Record maintained by the Secretary of the Treasury
under section 5841 of such Code shall register such handgun--

(A) within 1 year of the date of the enactment of this Act, or

(B) upon the transfer of such handgun before such 1 year anniversary date.

(2) TREATMENT OF REGISTRATION AS TRANSFER- For purposes of any tax
imposed by part II of subchapter A of chapter 53 of the Internal Revenue Code of
1986 (relating to tax on transferring firearms) on any firearm classified as a handgun
under section 5845(a)(8) of such Code, any registration of such handgun under
paragraph (1)(A) shall be considered a transfer of such handgun.

(3) NONAPPLICATION OF PENALTY- Section 5861(d) of the Internal Revenue
Code of 1986 shall not apply with respect to the possession of any handgun before the
date of the registration of such handgun under paragraph (1).

(g) PROVISION OF REGISTRATION FORMS-

(1) AVAILABILITY- To promote and assist compliance with the handgun registration
requirements under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as amended by this section,
the Secretary of the Treasury shall make available such registration and fingerprint
forms as may be required by the public for compliance with such requirements--

(A) to State and local law enforcement agencies and facilities of the Department
of the Treasury throughout the States, the United States Postal Service, and such
other agencies and departments of the Federal Government as the Secretary
determines would aid in making such forms available to the public; and

(B) through the Internet in a downloadable format.

(2) SINGLE FORM- The Secretary of the Treasury shall make available registration
forms that allow an individual to register the possession or transfer of more than 1
firearm classified as a handgun under section 5845(a)(8) of the Internal Revenue Code
of 1986 on a single form.

(h) PROGRAM OF PUBLIC AWARENESS- Within 60 days after the date of the
enactment of this Act, the Secretary of the Treasury shall commence a program to broaden
public awareness of the handgun registration requirements under the Internal Revenue Code
of 1986, as amended by this section. Such program may include voluntary cooperative efforts
with Federal, State, and local law enforcement agencies and public service announcements as
deemed appropriate by the Secretary.

(i) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS- There are authorized to be appropriated
such sums as may be necessary for the Secretary of the Treasury to carry out the provisions
of and amendments made by this Act.

(j) EFFECTIVE DATE- The amendments made by this section shall take effect on the date
of the enactment of this Act.

END
 
SB 2099 is still in committee, where it's been since February, and is basically dead in the water.

Last I heard, a bill either needs to be signed by the President or vetoed by him and re-voted on by the Senate. Anybody hear that things have changed?

Since Der Prez is currently dancing his way across Africa, it might be a wee bit difficult for a Congressional page to hand-deliver the bill to him for signing.

Not to mention the fact that the United States Senate is not, and has not been, in session during the month of August.

Paranoia is a good thing. Panic is not.

LawDog

[This message has been edited by LawDog (edited August 29, 2000).]
 
Im not saying its true, but just a suggestion to check out.

There is a possibility, that the Finance Comittee may have passed this today WITHOUT, the Senate voting on it.

Perhaps such an amendment was made, perhaps not.

Something to check out?

MH.
 
Was this even passed by the House?

Was there a House/Senate conference committee to work out the differences between the two bills?

Was it REVOTED in both the House and Senate, and sent to the President for signature?

A bill can become law in one of three ways after it passes the House/Senate hurdles and is sent to the President.

1. President signs.

2. President ignores, and after, I believe, 10 days, it becomes law ad jurem(?) (can't remember the specific phrase).

3. President vetos, and it goes back to Congress for a 2/3s veto override vote. This very rarely happens.

I'm pretty certain that any changes to IRS code requires that both houses of Congress act on it.

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Meat-Hook, with all due respect, no one can prove a negative.

And, I really don't understand why everyone is so rabid about this bill. For heaven's sake ... it is certainly important to keep up with this stuff. But we do the RKBA, and our credibility, no favors by not learning about the legal process of legislation.

Earlier postings have indicated that this bill will somehow stealthily become law because it is an amendment to existing tax law. Wrong.

Now, we have someone calling a radio show and saying this has already become law. Wrong.

Really ... this is beginning to look ridiculous. Let's focus on the real battles, not rumors based upon ignorance of our legislative system. Sure, it is confusing, and it certainly seems as though our worst fears are often realized. But, we must be sure of our facts before going wild on this stuff. And, we should realize what impression we might give if we call our Congressman and Senators in a rabid rage because we've believed some foolishness on the 'net or radio.

No offense intended ... it's just that this must be the fourth or fifth thread on this topic, similarly phrased in an apocalyptic fashion.

Regards from AZ
 
MeatHook,

As with the rest of the Congress, the Senate Finance committee is on summer recess.

The Committee can do only three things.

1. Vote on a proposed bill and recommend that the full Senate adopt it.

2. Vote on a proposed bill and recommend that the full Senate reject it.

3. Keep the proposed bill locked up in Committee until the end of the 106th Congress, at which point the bill DIES.

The Senate Finance Committee has NO ability, authority, or capacity to enact proposed legislation into law.

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
This is from the Anti-Anti gun lobby e-group list. Can anyone confirm direct from Neal Knox?
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August 26 Neal Knox Report --


The internet is in a furor over S. 2099, Freshman Rhode
Island
Sen. Reed's handgun registration bill, which essentially amends
the
1934 National Firearms Act to apply to handguns, imposing a $50
tax.

(The 1934 bill would have imposed a $10 handgun tax, but
Atty. Gen.
Homer Cummings and Congress agreed to drop that when NRA dropped
its objection to the prohibitive $200 transfer tax on machine
guns
and short-barrelled shotguns -- the law that paved the way for
Federal gun laws.)

Reed is a back-bencher. His bill is much too radical to
pass
-- therefore, it's one of the many bad bills proposed every year
that we don't have to worry about.

As if it wasn't bad enough, someone juiced up gunowners by
falsely claiming we would have to put the serial numbers of our
handguns on next year's tax return. And further claiming that
this tax could be passed by a vote of the Finance Committee,
without
the approval of Congress. Get real, folks!

I suggest everyone pay attention to the stuff that is a
real threat, like the trigger locks, gun show background checks
and all the other new gun laws that NRA approved and both houses
passed last year -- and S. 2525, the Feinstein-Schumer
registration
bill that I expect them to at least try to get a vote on, to
make
life more difficult for squishy Republicans.

This is the third round of S. 2099 hysterics on the
internet
since Reed introduced it in February; each time diverting
attention
away from real problems.
*********************************************

I don't think Neal would say don't worry if it were a real threat.
 
Even if it did pass it wouldnt affect my handguns as they are not part of the definition.
"is designed to or may be readily converted to expel a projectile by the
action of an explosive" I use propellants NOT explosives. BTW I dont shoot black. Sorry if you do.
 
How can they even think about bringing this bill about when it clearly violates a few laws on the books (Not the mention the various parts of The Constitution).

oberkommando

propellants as you refer to are termed "Explosives" that is if you use any type of gun-powder. if you use compressed air then you are in the clear. (Though not for long)

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Dead [Black Ops]
 
This hasn't moved since February. It's still in committee.

In the unlikely event that this passed the Senate, it would then have to go through the House. After this, differences would have to be worked out between the House and Senate version before it could ever go to the President.

Bills must go through both the Senate and the House before going to the President to become signed(or vetoed) into law.

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NRA Life Member
Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners(MCRGO)
 
Neal Knox hit it on the head.

Note, if you attend this year's Gun Rights Policy Conference, you'd probably have a chance to meet Neal. The conference is free ... you pay for your transportation (to Alexandria, VA) and hotel. It is well worth it. See www.saf.org .

Regards from AZ
 
oberkommando - I had the exact same thought. In Clintonspeak, and by that definition, I have no firearms at all.
 
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