Record back ground check day last Friday.

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The FBI sez that last Friday broke all records for firearms background checks.
Over 185,000!
Wonder why?
Bargains, panics, getting in the spirit of the season, something else?
Anyone got a clue?
 
There were some good Black Friday deals.

I found better gun deals than anything else this year.
 
I assume a lot of those are repeat buyers that still require a background check. However, there are probably some new owners coming over to our side, so be nice to the newbie at the range.
 
I saw that in this article on MSN:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bl...ground-checks/ar-AAfUnQz?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=iehp

Another thing I saw in the article that I thought interesting is the amount of background checks since 1998.

"Since 1998, FBI data shows that the bureau has processed requests for more than 220 million firearm purchases."

That's a lot of guns. Previous estimates tossed around were approximately 200 million guns, total, in circulation. If 220 million NICS checks for firearms bought since 1998, the total guns currently in circulation has got to be significantly more. Granted, many of the 200+ million bought since 1998 may have been used / trade in's, so that would affect the number in circulation, but also consider the states that have their own 'de facto NICS' (like NJ) that aren't counted in the FBI count. Also, a few states don't conduct a NICS check if you have a CCW. And also, the number of NICS checks doesn't consider the number of multiple purchases on one check. (Although that's probably not many in the overall scheme of things.)

Anyway, there's a lot of guns out here. And there. Good luck to the anti's that think UBC's will solve any problem. How are they going to enforce that with upwards of 400+?? million guns pre-UBC law?
 
I have purchased 1 gun after I got my CHL. I did not have to wait for the background check at the dealer like I had previously. Do they not run the check for CHL holders? If they do not, the check numbers would not reflect the actual sales numbers. I would bet that a very high percentage of gun purchases were made by CHL holders.
 
Zach you are right. In Texas, the FFL wants to see your CHL instead of doing a NICS background check. In Texas, and I think some other states as 2ndsojuorn pointed out, NICS checks are for people without a carry license.

I do not wish to push this thread off-topic, but it is my understanding that the Canadian scheme to register all long guns was scrapped because of low compliance and the large number of such guns in circulation. If that is indeed the case, 220 million additional guns (as a lower bound) sold since 1998 bodes well for the impracticality of registration/confiscation in the US.

...and maybe it isn't exactly a lower bound because some of those were "denied" and did not result in a purchase; but again, some of them were multiple purchases so maybe the multiples balanced the denials to some extent.
 
Before I moved, I would just show my CHL and pay for the gun and take it home.

Washington dealer asked if I had a permit, but I think he still did a BGC
 
Over 185k! I think it is a sign of the times. People feeling less secure at the same time some politicians want place more restrictions on gun ownership. Add in the holidays and it's a gun buying perfect storm.:cool:
 
Then you have states like FL who do not use the Federal check - they use their own
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As far as I know, Florida uses the NICS background check - anything different would be news to me.
 
I thought NICS was a national mandate for all FFL dealers? Some States add their own on top of it. I live in MA which requires both checks and registers the gun to me in the process.
 
As far as I know, Florida uses the NICS background check - anything different would be news to me.
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Absolutely correct. The reason we have to go through the NICS check even with a CCWP is that our license in issued by the Dept. of Agriculture and not a law enforcement agency.
 
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As far as I know, Florida uses the NICS background check - anything different would be news to me.
Absolutely correct. The reason we have to go through the NICS check even with a CCWP is that our license in issued by the Dept. of Agriculture and not a law enforcement agency.
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Not quite correct:
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/general-information/participation-map

Thirteen states have agencies acting on behalf of the NICS in a full Point-of-Contact (POC) capacity. These POC states, which have agreed to implement and maintain their own Brady NICS Program, conduct firearm background checks for FFLs’ transactions in their respective states by electronically accessing the NICS. Upon completion of the required ATF Form 4473, the FFLs conducting business in the POC states contact a designated state agency to initiate a NICS background check in lieu of contacting the NICS Section.

Full POC states (contact state/territory for all firearm background checks, including permits): California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia
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All permits for just about anything go through the DoA which is why FL LEO do not have access through your DL to see if you have a CWL. It is also the reason why we pay $5.00 for the phone call for the check.
 
I went in today to pickup a revolver from a nearby gun store. After reading this thread and the recent incidents, I was afraid the background check might be a little longer than usual.

I doubt the store was on the phone for more than thirty seconds. The longest part of the process was me filling out the paperwork and writing the check.
 
All permits for just about anything go through the DoA which is why FL LEO do not have access through your DL to see if you have a CWL. It is also the reason why we pay $5.00 for the phone call for the check.
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Yeah, but even if they are using a "middle man", that middle man is still utilizing the NICS system to conduct background checks.
 
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