Recoil pad.

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johnwilliamson062

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I had a BT99 with an interesting Recoil pad. When you fired the gun would slid up a set of rails transferring the energy upward instead of straight back. I am sure any avid trap shooter know the type I am talking about. Anyone know what they are called? More than one brand? FOr more than BT 99. Had a guy offer me $75 for the one I had, but was able to sell the whole gun for $300 more than I paid so it went all together(hoping to get a BT 100 down the road). Really liked the recoil pad though.
 
I'm waiting for the "old guys" to respond ....because I have no idea what you're talking about ...??? .../ but its interesting...
 
You're older than I am Jim, and you shot trap whereas I didn't.....YOU should know...... ;)

I have seen many recoil devices on guns over the years, but not where the gun was sent upwards - don't think I would like that coming up and into my cheek - my shoulder has more bearing surface than my cheek does. Can't even think of any who did -Gracoil, G Squared, JS Air, Soft Touch, etc......
 
Just because I have 3 dedicated Trap guns....doesn't make me a Trap shooter...my parents were married !! ....

But I still don't know ...what he saw either...
 
When I shot ATA, I saw a lot of strange stuff. Some super specialized trap guns look like they were from Mars, and beyond. I don't recall seeing anything like I envision from your description; but, I know, there's a lot of gear I've not seen. Some custom devices were limited production and, before the internet, had little general exposure. I have two types of reciprocating recoil reducers but there are no rails involved and the their action is not vertical. The only thing I can think of with "rails" are some of the adjustable recoil pad mounts, but they are locked in place when you shoot. If you get a chance, I'm sure we'd all like to see some pics of that BT99.
 
What JW62 mentioned is a BT-99 Plus. Adjustable rib, cheek piece, and recoil system. Also made this in a Citori called a Citori Plus. Invector Plus chokes. 32 and 34 inch barrels on the BT-Plus. Never saw any 30 inch barrels on the BT. If your going to own a BT this is the one to look for. I would do pictures but we are reorganizing the music room and have a couple thousand records parked in front of the safe.
 
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Oh, ok ....if John was talking about the BT-99 Plus....that makes some sense...

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=9559134

Here's a link with some photos of a BT-99 Plus...but the recoil reducer in that model didn't go up and down ....it moved fore and aft..../ and it was always my assumption that system was mfg'd by GraCoil ..but maybe not. So maybe John saw some custom setup ...still don't know...

Obviously Browning still makes a BT-99 with a gracoil in it ...the gold model for around $ 3,750 - $ 4,000 around here...and I see a few of them around...but I like the older BT-100 better too ( if for no reason other than the removeable trigger group in the BT-100 ).

http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?fid=009B&cid=017&tid=057&bg=x

I can't find an option for an adjustable rib anymore on Brownings site ...don't know when that went away ....but I know other companies like Krieghoff are still offering it...in their KX-6 line of guns ...
http://www.krieghoff.com/index.php/competition-shotguns/kx-6-single-shot-trap
 
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What you are showing Jim are the types I was thinking about along with the JS system that Zippy knows more about and the G squared Shockmaster where the comb and butt plate are one unit and move back in unison
 
Yeah, I'm still not sure what John saw ...or what someone told him ...

we might be way out on this one.....but a shotgun recoiling vertically ...makes no sense to me either...
 
Hey Jim, how about using the space under your BT-100's rib for advertising your company? Then you could write-off your shooting (if you don't already)? ;)
 
I think that the 99+ may have been the last to have the adjustable rib option.
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Seems some of the sporting folks are trying to push them for sporting guns - Cesar Guerini has one, I believe Kreighoff, Blaser and a few others offer some form of them as well.
 
I always thought my entry fees were a "charitable contribution" ....to you " big dogs " isn't it ....
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No, seriously ....I've participated as a sponsor on some sporting stations in a few shoots, as a company ....

and with the youth shooting groups...with a little cash ..../or buying a few cases of shells...
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but the more "low key" I can go, the better I like it ... :cool: ......I'm just a "pup" in the "big yard" guys like you play in buddy ....and its a priveledge to participate...
 
I didn't see it I owned it! Should have kept the thing when I sold the gun or at least written some model numbers or such down.
I used Remington nitro pheasants for shoot offs and the thing was still so soft to shoot.

Thinking about this further I am confident the butt shot down, not up. I remember it being up, but i do not remember bruises on my cheeks, and as pointed out up would cause bruises. It was angled, so it wasn't straight down. Maybe 60*
Rails also may not be a good description. Maybe more like dovetails.
Not the BT99+ pictured. No gap. No piston or spring involved either. Had to push the thing back into place between shots.
 
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