Quote: "just curious, i own a couple of lightweight pumps and to me the recoil is pretty stout with full power loads."
Perhaps a large part of your problem is the weight of your guns. With the same load, a lighter gun naturally recoils more than a heavier gun. If you apply the same force to two objects, the lighter object will move more, faster, etc. than the heavier object. Other factors in recoil effect is good recoil pad, fit of rifle/shotgun, lighter loads vs heavier loads, and shooter perception. You can shorten or lengthen a stock when attaching a recoil pad. You can add a pad on top of stock comb or rasp/lower the comb (which requires refinishing stock). You can add weight inside stock of some rifles/shotguns although this will affect fore/aft balance of gun.