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gringojosh

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Are there iron sights available that allow the shooter to obtain the type of accuracy you normally get with a scope? I am in favor of shooting without magnification whenever possible, but the iron sights I've tried don't offer the precise sight picture that a scope does, even at 1x magnification. I've seen the diopter-type sights that biathletes use - are these a step up? What are the best sights available for shooting without magnification?
 
I found aperture sights, (front and back) are the most accurate. In fact I can shoot them better then I can shoot scopes.

Get the rear opening to fit your eyesight. The front sight that gives you a clear circle of white around the bull.

For normal shooting, such as High Powder, or NRA/ISU small bore, I like the 2.8 mm front sight.

In shooting you eye naturally wants to center the front sight in the rear sight. It works the same way in shooting an aperture front sight, the eye wants to naturally center the target or bull, in the front sight.
 
I use a Lyman globe sight on my Sharps, it gives me the ability to change the insert in the sight to match my needs at the time. Generally, I shoot the aperture front and rear. Once you've learned to use it, it's fast and it doesn't obscure the target like a post sight does.
 
High quality irons can be every bit as effective as scopes, the key is finding what you want for the rifle you have at a price you can afford.

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What brand are those sights shown in the pic? Could you mount sights like those on a varmint rifle, or would you need to get it specially machined?
 
Depends on what you are shooting. Aperture front and rear is great for shooting bullseye targets, as your eye is really good at lining up concentric circles.

For hunting, I would think an aperture rear and post front would be best, like you find on an M1 or 1903A3.
 
For hunting a "ghost ring" aperture is both fast and accurate !! 1/8" square front post and 3/16" thin rear aperture .
 
Aperture sight from me also. Should be able to find them from Williams prices probably $40.00 to way up.
 
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I found aperture sights, (front and back) are the most accurate. In fact I can shoot them better then I can shoot scopes.
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Yep. Ain't that the truth.
Also true is the expense of top shelf apertures....the Centra rear pictured runs $375.00 (from Champions Choice) and the Anschutz front sight pictured is another $230.00 from the same source.
Don't know about other sources.
Pete
 
Mojo now offers a front and rear aperture set up for many mil-surps. Adding the front aperture makes shooting those mid mounted rear sight mil-surps a dream to shoot.
 
Shooters with good eyes can shoot amazing scores with irons.

I am a regular small bore prone shooter, on the average the scope shooters will score higher, it is a combination of seeing what you are doing on target and seeing the wind conditions real time.

It takes a lot of work and discipline to shoot irons well. Older rifles, those made before the early 60's, most of them are drilled and tapped for irons. It is too bad that the Lyman 48 is a collector item, but on a pre 64 a Lyman 48 is an excellent sight and adequate for as far as you can see your target.


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Hello, gringojosh. I have vernier adjustable tang sights and interchangeable insert globe fronts (some with windage adjustment & spirit level), both modern made and original. on rifles from .22 L.R. to .40-70 B.N.
With these precision sights, I can often shoot groups under 1" at 100yds.
The most accurate combination for me is a front appature that permits a generous band of white around a black bull. In use, one merely looks thru the rear appa. & centers bull in front app. ring.
Mike Venturino opined that a precision vernier tang sight was equal to a
1X scope.
 
A peep rear and post front is a good combination for irregular targets like game animals and foreign soldiers. Look at military weapons. We got receiver sights on the 1917 we sort of inherited from the British and stuck with them ever since, barring the use of legacy 1903s.

A well defined stationary target like a bullseye or even a metallic silhouette critter is best served with a peep rear and globe front with front aperture.

Mike V. is overly conservative. At the recent Southeast Regional BPCR Championships in Georgia, scores on both midrange bullseye and metallic silhouette were higher with iron sights than scopes. The usual scope magnification in that venue is 6X.
 
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