WalterGAII
Moderator
Somehow, in the "Accurizing the Glock" thread, I got singled out for a lecture on Glock accuracy. Anybody spends much time on Glocktalk knows that I'm a daily proponent of Glocks. Not only do I encourage others to buy Glocks, but I let lots of folks at our local range shoot my Glocks, just to encourage them to try that little plastic wonder. I also do lots of work on Glocks for free...just because I enjoy it.
I didn't come forward with challenges of bets, etc., just tongue-in-cheek made the point that I'd sure like to see somebody shoot a stock Glock like that. I have more confidence in my ability with my Glocks than I do with my ability with my other handguns. Maybe I read too much into Red Bull's original post. I also thought that he was implying strongly that he, as a matter of routine, shot 1" groups with a stock Glock.
As much as I love my Glocks, the aforementioned begs the question as to why anybody would waste a nickel on a custom-fit Bar-Sto barrel, or any other custom barrel. Bar-Sto doesn't claim that their barrels can do better than 1" at 25 yds., so why would anybody buy a Bar-Sto barrel, if a stock Glock easily shoots 1"?? What does one gain with the Bar-Sto?
I do enjoy shooting tennis balls, and yes, I do drive them out to fifty-60 yds. I certainly don't hit the tennis ball with every shot, but I always get close.
I also interpreted R.B.'s original post to be a statement not only of his gun's ability, but also of his own. As to my shooting talents, I don't shoot competitively and generally feel that I don't have anything to prove to anyone about anything.
The only time I ever went deer hunting, I killed a deer with my Mod. 29 Smith. Not very much to brag about. There's a hell of a big difference in hitting a huge animal and shooting a 1" group.
I never heard of anybody who was into shooting groups discounting flyers. I don't care what Messiah Adoodi does, as he's just never been a relevant factor in my life. I do enjoy shooting groups with my rifles, but, frankly, shoot pistols for a completely different reason and rarely shoot for groups.
I was totally serious with my statement earlier that I'd like to see somebody consistently shoot 1" groups with a stock Glock at 25 yds. That's because of my affection, not disaffection, for Glocks. I wouldn't, of course, fly across the country for that reason, but I'd be proud to shake the hand of the guy who shoots like that.
My mistake, as was the mistake of a couple of others, is that we were thinking "consistent", and we weren't thinking about discounting flyers. When I'm shooting groups with my Rem. VS, (shot five-shot, .246" group last time I shot) four shots in 1/4", with a fifth an inch off, isn't a 1/4" group.
This has all been a lot of keytapping over nothing. I know that Glocks are really accurate. I know that my G30 is one of the most accurate pistols I shoot, including my Gold Cups. I love my Glocks.
I also shoot tens of thousands of rounds through my Glocks every year. I've probably done more work with .400 Cor-Bon than any layman in the country. Rarely does a week go by that I don't visit the range daily. Sometimes I go two or three times a day. I make no claims nor offer any apologies about my abilities with my Glocks.
I didn't come forward with challenges of bets, etc., just tongue-in-cheek made the point that I'd sure like to see somebody shoot a stock Glock like that. I have more confidence in my ability with my Glocks than I do with my ability with my other handguns. Maybe I read too much into Red Bull's original post. I also thought that he was implying strongly that he, as a matter of routine, shot 1" groups with a stock Glock.
As much as I love my Glocks, the aforementioned begs the question as to why anybody would waste a nickel on a custom-fit Bar-Sto barrel, or any other custom barrel. Bar-Sto doesn't claim that their barrels can do better than 1" at 25 yds., so why would anybody buy a Bar-Sto barrel, if a stock Glock easily shoots 1"?? What does one gain with the Bar-Sto?
I do enjoy shooting tennis balls, and yes, I do drive them out to fifty-60 yds. I certainly don't hit the tennis ball with every shot, but I always get close.
I also interpreted R.B.'s original post to be a statement not only of his gun's ability, but also of his own. As to my shooting talents, I don't shoot competitively and generally feel that I don't have anything to prove to anyone about anything.
The only time I ever went deer hunting, I killed a deer with my Mod. 29 Smith. Not very much to brag about. There's a hell of a big difference in hitting a huge animal and shooting a 1" group.
I never heard of anybody who was into shooting groups discounting flyers. I don't care what Messiah Adoodi does, as he's just never been a relevant factor in my life. I do enjoy shooting groups with my rifles, but, frankly, shoot pistols for a completely different reason and rarely shoot for groups.
I was totally serious with my statement earlier that I'd like to see somebody consistently shoot 1" groups with a stock Glock at 25 yds. That's because of my affection, not disaffection, for Glocks. I wouldn't, of course, fly across the country for that reason, but I'd be proud to shake the hand of the guy who shoots like that.
My mistake, as was the mistake of a couple of others, is that we were thinking "consistent", and we weren't thinking about discounting flyers. When I'm shooting groups with my Rem. VS, (shot five-shot, .246" group last time I shot) four shots in 1/4", with a fifth an inch off, isn't a 1/4" group.
This has all been a lot of keytapping over nothing. I know that Glocks are really accurate. I know that my G30 is one of the most accurate pistols I shoot, including my Gold Cups. I love my Glocks.
I also shoot tens of thousands of rounds through my Glocks every year. I've probably done more work with .400 Cor-Bon than any layman in the country. Rarely does a week go by that I don't visit the range daily. Sometimes I go two or three times a day. I make no claims nor offer any apologies about my abilities with my Glocks.