Uncle Malice
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I've haven't been around as much the last year or two as I used to. I lurk and read a lot and reply to some people, but haven't had much cause to start my own threads much.
I kind of got my start here on TFL giving details reviews of guns. As a little throwback to my TFL roots, I wanted to give my thoughts on shooting the HK P30 V3 against the CZ P-10 C.
Great range day today over the course of 500rds. They are different guns for sure but similar size, capacity, and purpose.
This wasn't to pick a winner, just to see how their differences felt in shooting them. The P30 has a softer recoil but a little more muzzle rise. The P-10 C feels a little more snappy but it's very fast and back on target slightly faster.
They were pretty much on par as far as accuracy for me, shooting from 7 - 25 yards. The P30 is still stock, while the P-10 C has the HB Industries trigger, Apex Tactical mag release, and Night Fision sights. I definitely preferred the Night Fision sights and already have a pair of Trijicon HD XR's in the same configuration on the way for the P30.
I shot both guns naked and with the Streamlight TLR-1 HL attached. The P30 seemed to shoot a little better than the P-10 C with the light attached, but it was a small difference.
The 5-shot group photos on the tiny targets were from 10 yards, concentrated fire at about 1-2 seconds between shots.
I can shoot the P-10 C a little faster than the P30, but that shouldn't surprise anyone. The P-10 trigger beats just about everything this side of a 1911 or SAO Sig Sauer(to include the PPQ in my opinion). The double action on the P30 is buttery smooth and I have no problem shooting accurately. Did a lot of failure drills which were no problem in the DA to SA transition.
Overall, I love both of these guns so much. They have some differences for sure, but they both shoot really, really well. Once I have the P30 where I want it - match hammer spring, match sear spring, light firing pin block spring, (maybe)light trigger return spring, Gray Guns short reset kit, and Trijicon HD XR sights - I'll have to run this test again.
In conclusion, if you are considering one or both of these guns - by them. You won't be disappointed. They're both ergonomic titans.
10 yards, concentrated fire
10 yards, concentrated fire
I kind of got my start here on TFL giving details reviews of guns. As a little throwback to my TFL roots, I wanted to give my thoughts on shooting the HK P30 V3 against the CZ P-10 C.
Great range day today over the course of 500rds. They are different guns for sure but similar size, capacity, and purpose.
This wasn't to pick a winner, just to see how their differences felt in shooting them. The P30 has a softer recoil but a little more muzzle rise. The P-10 C feels a little more snappy but it's very fast and back on target slightly faster.
They were pretty much on par as far as accuracy for me, shooting from 7 - 25 yards. The P30 is still stock, while the P-10 C has the HB Industries trigger, Apex Tactical mag release, and Night Fision sights. I definitely preferred the Night Fision sights and already have a pair of Trijicon HD XR's in the same configuration on the way for the P30.
I shot both guns naked and with the Streamlight TLR-1 HL attached. The P30 seemed to shoot a little better than the P-10 C with the light attached, but it was a small difference.
The 5-shot group photos on the tiny targets were from 10 yards, concentrated fire at about 1-2 seconds between shots.
I can shoot the P-10 C a little faster than the P30, but that shouldn't surprise anyone. The P-10 trigger beats just about everything this side of a 1911 or SAO Sig Sauer(to include the PPQ in my opinion). The double action on the P30 is buttery smooth and I have no problem shooting accurately. Did a lot of failure drills which were no problem in the DA to SA transition.
Overall, I love both of these guns so much. They have some differences for sure, but they both shoot really, really well. Once I have the P30 where I want it - match hammer spring, match sear spring, light firing pin block spring, (maybe)light trigger return spring, Gray Guns short reset kit, and Trijicon HD XR sights - I'll have to run this test again.
In conclusion, if you are considering one or both of these guns - by them. You won't be disappointed. They're both ergonomic titans.
10 yards, concentrated fire
10 yards, concentrated fire