Ramshot and Accurate moving to USA

steve4102

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Well not all of their powder, but a couple.

Accurate 2520 will now be manufactured by St Marks in FL with a slight change in shape and more temperature stability.

They are also splitting up X-Terminator and 2230 and they will be two separate powders.

2230 will be moving to St Marks as well, while X-T will remain a Belgium powder with an added Copper Fouling agent.
 
Moving?

Where did you hear this?
I welcome them in, but they're a day late and a dollar short. I've given up on AA2520 and replaced it with Match Rifle. Great powder.
 
I read it on another forum, so I contacted Don at Western Powders and he confirmed.

Steve,
Where do you read this at?
Yes this is correct, we are splitting A2230 and X-Terminator;
In Belgium X-Terminator will be its own powder that will now have a de-coppering agent added.
At St. Marks, A2520 and A2230 will be now manufactured here and will have a change in shape and have more temperature stability.

Don W.
CSR Western Powders
 
Good news, basically. Also gives you some insight as to why old load data cannot be assured to match current production of a powder. Powder's change. So do primers, by the way. The manufacturers will try to keep these powders close to the characteristics of the original, but as you might imagine, if one fellow develops a load in a high heat desert area, while another does it in a permafrost area in Alaska, once the powder is changed to have less temperature sensitivity, at least one of those fellow's loads will no longer be valid.

So, the old rule applies: new lot of powder, new load workup safety check.

BTW, that check does not have to be a protracted process if you have a chronograph. Just hold over enough of your old lot to make a dozen starting level loads from it, then make the same number with the new lot. Shoot both over the chronograph on the same day, under the same lighting conditions at the same firing rate with the barrel in the same starting condition. Divide the average velocity you get from the old powder by what you get for the new powder. Because the charge weight is the same for both, that velocity ratio will also turn out to be the expected charge weight change for the new powder. That is, if you got, say 0.97, then multiply your old sweet spot charge weight by 0.97 to get the likely sweet spot charge weight for the new lot of powder. If it was, say 1.02, then multiply the old powder sweet spot load by 1.02 to get the likely sweet spot charge weight for the new powder lot. Barrel time may vary a little from that, so some fine tuning right next to the resulting value may be needed, but it will be very close.

The way I insure conditions for the tests are the same is to shoot a fouler from each lot, then shoot the two samples for velocity record alternating between the new and old powder charged cartridges. I have to separate the pairs of velocity numbers for averaging afterward, but this ensures changes in the light or ambient temperature or barrel fouling levels tend to affect the cartridges with the two powders equally. I even alternate firing order. That is, if I have cartridges with powder A and B, then the order is ABBAABBAABBAABBAABBAABBA. This is to prevent early copper build-up or other fouling from advantaging one powder over the other unduly. Just remember the name of the rock group, ABBA, and shoot that order 6 times.
 
Accurate has procured powder from all over the world.
Now as a division of Western Powder their "spherical" powders are made in USA (St Marks, source of Winchester and Hodgdon, too.) or in Belgium (PB Clermont, apparently.) Their extruded powders are from Canada (surely IMR Valleyfield.)
They don't say WHERE they get LT30 and LT32.
Ramshot brand comes mostly from Belgium, a couple from St Marks.

Unclenick's cautions are well taken. I don't shoot so close to the ragged edge that lot to lot variation matters much, but when the company changes sources, I am very careful. I don't care what label they put on it, the factories in Israel, China, America, and Belgium are not making exactly the same stuff. Not to mention the Czech Republic and the Republic of South Africa. All of whom have been sources for AA powders.
 
Ho-ray!!! Its about time.
I hope they eventually bring their entire powder line-up here. Without a doubt the marketplace will have a couple additional powder selections for us home re-loaders and too Florida's workforce got some jobs. Now that's a win win proposition. :):):):):)
 
Some of the best Accurate Arms powders I used were made in China. I shot kegs of Chinese made AA2495 and I was very sorry when they changed vendors. I hope they can stop switching vendors because each vendor change, the powder charges change.
 
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