Any other weapon.
Any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person from which a shot can be discharged through the energy of an explosive, a pistol or revolver having a barrel with a smooth bore designed or redesigned to fire a fixed shotgun shell, weapons with combination shotgun and rifle barrels 12 inches or more, less than 18 inches in length, from which only a single discharge can be made from either barrel without manual reloading, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire. Such term shall not include a pistol or a revolver having a rifled bore, or rifled bores, or weapons designed, made, or intended to be fired from the shoulder and not capable of firing fixed ammunition.
What is the denomination on that Form 4 tax stamp?Txgunman the form 4 has in the box "A.O.W Pistol unit with collapsible stock". yes, my name is in the Transferee's name and address box. "approved" is checked in the ATF section and it has 2 different signatures on the last line. My pic is on back with the signature of the Nueces Cty Sheriff at the time. There is a 2 letter and 5 number black stamp at top of form. example PS00000 format. This weapon was made in 2002.
Firearms made and registered on a Form 1 rely on the maker to accurately describe what NFA firearm they are making. If you file a Form 1 as an AOW, but that firearm is in fact not an AOW as defined in federal law, you have a problem. If what you built is actually an SBR and you possess a a Form 1 for an AOW........thats a serious problem.raimius I'm not a lawyer, but that makes it sound like you have an approved, registered firearm. I'm not 100% confident it's accurate, but you at least have the ATF's own document to argue with, if anyone gives you flak. I would not alter it to any different configuration, since the wording is so...odd...
Correct. And for an MG/SBR/SBS perfectly legal.STORM2 After rereading, it appears the OP wants to change the dimensions of the stamped NFA gun.
Nothing he wrote indicates that is not the case.I thought the serial # had to match the paperwork.
Huh?If this is true then a new NFA gun would be created.
Oh heck no!Does having a stamp mean you could keep making additional guns?
True, the rules were created in 1934, so any firearm built since then has to abide by the NFA.It sounds too easy to be true. I suggest the OP ask BATF in writing. The rules were created before we had erector style upper/lower guns.
Of course you can.Can we have one stamped S/N lower and a dozen different barrel combos?
Elvis didn't know squat about the NFA.Elvis: … “it all just seems like a great big fairytale”.
Good points.Firearms made and registered on a Form 1 rely on the maker to accurately describe what NFA firearm they are making. If you file a Form 1 as an AOW, but that firearm is in fact not an AOW as defined in federal law, you have a problem. If what you built is actually an SBR and you possess a a Form 1 for an AOW........thats a serious problem.
If that firearm is later transferred via a Form 4, ATF will approve the Form based on what the original Form 1 stated. Thats because ATF doesn't see the actual firearm, relying on the original maker to know what the heck they are doing.
If I were the OP there is no way in heck I would keep that firearm in its current configuration.
ok, so what do I do? Do I take the form down to my local BATF office and say "hey can you look at this for me? Is this legit?" Should I disassemble the whole weapon down to the stripped receiver til I find out? or can I just take the collapsible stock off and replace it with a pistol brace til I can find out? Really stuck here, went through the whole process when I got this. Can't remember exactly how long I waited but wanna say it was a couple of months before I got to pick it up. Also, just changed addresses within my state. Should I send the change of address before I go talk to them?Firearms made and registered on a Form 1 rely on the maker to accurately describe what NFA firearm they are making. If you file a Form 1 as an AOW, but that firearm is in fact not an AOW as defined in federal law, you have a problem. If what you built is actually an SBR and you possess a a Form 1 for an AOW........thats a serious problem.
If that firearm is later transferred via a Form 4, ATF will approve the Form based on what the original Form 1 stated. Thats because ATF doesn't see the actual firearm, relying on the original maker to know what the heck they are doing.
If I were the OP there is no way in heck I would keep that firearm in its current configuration.
First, please answer my question from above...."What is the denomination on that Form 4 tax stamp?"Txgunman
ok, so what do I do?
Never.Do I take the form down to my local BATF office and say "hey can you look at this for me? Is this legit?"
Remove the shoulder stock for sure.Should I disassemble the whole weapon down to the stripped receiver til I find out? or can I just take the collapsible stock off and replace it with a pistol brace til I can find out?
You aren't stuck, you just have a firearm that currently doesn't seem to meet the definition of AOW.Really stuck here, went through the whole process when I got this. Can't remember exactly how long I waited but wanna say it was a couple of months before I got to pick it up.
You can, I'm not sure what difference it will make.Also, just changed addresses within my state. Should I send the change of address before I go talk to them?