Quick: plastic guns?

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Monkeyleg

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Right after the announcement about Cheney for VP, the anti's went nuts over his vote against banning "plastic guns." I know that the whole debate was concerning the Glock 17, but is there any gun anywhere that's made out of plastic? I need to get a letter to the editor off, and don't want to say something that is not correct.

Thanks,


Dick
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The more correct term is "polymer", and most manufacturers are beginning to use it. I don't know if it matters, as the people with whom this diatribe has traction are smugly ignorant of the facts, and hostile to our cause anyway. I'm being pessimistic, I suppose.
 
And another thing....

The assertion was that these polymer frame guns would be invisible to airport security scanners. Utter hogwash. They show up plainly. But why let the facts get in the way of a good story?
 
Research HR 4445 (Terrorist Firearms Detection Act), voted on 10 May 1988 in the House. It is the act in question.




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"Anyone feel like saluting the flag which the strutting ATF and FBI gleefully raised over the smoldering crematorium of Waco, back in April of ‘93?" -Vin Suprynowicz
 
Saw Cheney this a.m. being interviewed by Matt Lauer who had his best, faux concerned t.v. face and voice on display. He asked Cheney how he could vote against this bill which "even the NRA supported." Cheney responded, "Well Matt, I guess that shows I'm not in the pocket of the NRA."
 
"I'm not in the pocket of the NRA"

YES YES YES YES YES!

What a GREAT response!

I bet that pansy Matt Lauer just didn't know what to say!

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
FWIW, the only "plastic" guns are water pistols, and yes, Glocks show up perfectly well in metal detectors.

Bush may be a closet anti, but Cheney is truly pro-gun. Good choice.
 
I was looking at a .22 target pistol (I'm pretty sure it was a Ruger Mark somethingorother) where most of the outside was polymer. Barrel was steel and the guts were metal but the outside was polymer.
I saw the interview and I think Cheney did really well. I was not a fan before but may have a re-think. I liked the bit they did immediately after that on his wife. I had a good laugh when they quoted her derision of Hillary Clinton's fakery.

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Those who use arms well cultivate the Way and keep the rules.Thus they can govern in such a way as to prevail over the corrupt- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
 
Cheney was a great choice. Colin Powell might have done better, but I'm not sure McCain could have even if he could work with Bush. I say by all means push 'em on this lie about "plastic guns." Simply defy them to find any gun ever manufactured that can pass through metal detectors.

These idiots think a Glock is the production equivalent of the ceramic gun from "In the Line of Fire." 10 bucks says the next person you try to tell about this myth brings up that movie--the last woman I talked to about it did.

BTW, does anybody else listen to Rush Limbaugh (and admit to it?) Now, Limbaugh doesn't always make sense and he can be the same kind of demagogue as some Democrats sometimes, but yesterday, Bush and Cheney both called in to the show to speak with him. What's that all about? Time was when Limbaugh was one of the "third rails" you hear so much about. For a Republican to admit he knew what had been on the show the day before meant he was an extremist right-wing wacko. I think Bush's campaign smells a trend if they're willing to be linked with Rush Limbaugh in public, whatever you may think of Limbaugh personally.
 
I've been used to being pissed off at the Republicans over their betrayals of us for so long, Bush picking Cheney has got me kind of off ballance. Like somebody who was so braced to be kicked in the rear that they fall over backwards when the blow doesn't land...

Now if they could only come to their senses about victimless crimes, I could retire my Libertarian party membership card, and join the GOP.

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Sic semper tyrannis!
 
If I were writing a letter, I'd make the point that the Glock, the alleged "plastic pistol for terrorists", is now riding in the holsters of over half of the police officers in the United States.
 
I covered that one, Matt. Here's my letter:

To the editors:

Within minutes of the announcement that Dick Cheney would be George Bush's running mate, gun ban zealots in congress and elsewhere denounced Cheney's 1988 vote against a ban on so-called "plastic guns." The ban was the result of a fear campaign leading the public to believe that there were plastic guns that could go undetected by airport metal
detectors and x-ray machines.

The gun at the center of the controversy was the Austrian-produced Glock 17. The Glock contains some lightweight polymer external parts, but 83% of its construction is hardened steel, and it is readily identifiable as a firearm when passed through metal detectors and x-ray scanners. Today,
the Glock is one of the most widely issued sidearms for law enforcement agencies nationwide, and is popular with citizens for self-defense purposes.

Emotions and distortion are tools of the trade for gun banners, and it is telling that Mr. Cheney instead used reasoning when he refused to ban something that did not exist in 1988, does not exist today, and in all
probability will never exist in the foreseeable future. Our concern should be with the mindset of congressmen who acquiesced to the hysteria
of the gun banners and squandered taxpayer dollars debating a bill that
would ban a non-existent object.


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Coinneach:
FWIW, the only "plastic" guns are water pistols, and yes, Glocks show up perfectly well in metal detectors.

Bush may be a closet anti, but Cheney is truly pro-gun. Good choice.[/quote]


I have a plastic water-rifle, and a plastic Laser-Tag Rifle, and Pistol.

They banned my plastic cap guns, so I dont have those anymore!!!!!!! :(


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You are quite right, Oleg.
How could they have used x-ray machines in its classic use for the detection of tuberculosis if it only picked up metal?
How could they have used it in medicine at all if it only picked up metal?
People are not made of metal.
The anti's were liars back in 1988, just as they are today. Some thing never change.
This Chenny fellow may turn out to be the rare honest man in politics. I'll wait and see, howerver.

[This message has been edited by Herodotus (edited July 27, 2000).]
 
Yes, but I believe that airports use metallic detectors, not X-rays. Therefore, IF you had an all-plastic pistol (meaning if the damn things existed) and it were nestled among your other stuff in a carry-on bag, it might go undetected. But those are big ifs for people who can't produce the pistol!
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Don Gwinn:
Yes, but I believe that airports use metallic detectors, not X-rays. Therefore, IF you had an all-plastic pistol (meaning if the damn things existed) and it were nestled among your other stuff in a carry-on bag, it might go undetected. But those are big ifs for people who can't produce the pistol![/quote]

Your carry on bag (or any other luggage) is put through an X-Ray machine period!!!


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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Don Gwinn: Yes, but I believe that airports use metallic detectors, not X-rays. Therefore, IF you had an all-plastic pistol (meaning if the damn things existed) and it were nestled among your other stuff in a carry-on bag, it might go undetected. But those are big ifs for people who can't produce the pistol![/quote] Wouldn’t do you much good without plastic cartridges now would it?

Oh, I forgot, the sheeply would never think of that.


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[This message has been edited by Jerry45 (edited July 27, 2000).]
 
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