Question: What would this be gun be good to hunt for?

handermanntr

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I am looking at a new rifle, and i am wondering what everyone thinks it could be used for. This is a PCP hunting air rifle, i am interested in because of the reduced noise, so everything wont leave for weeks every time i take a shot.
Caliber: .50
Velocity: 660fps
Bullet Weight: 225gr (Hollow-point, round nose, or ball)

I saw video's online of people shooting through bricks at 80 yards and records of people getting deer, so i feel confident for deer.

Let me know what you think
 
What are your State Hunting Laws on the use of an air rifles for hunting large game?

I would be concerned about an air rifle having sufficient power at a distance (even at a hundred yard) to cleanly kill a deer. (cruelty)

A few things you do not want to do is violate hunting laws.

Injure or maim an animal. (cruelty)

Wound and animal and have to track it long distances before it succubms to its wound. (cruelty)

There is a difference in muzzle velocity and velocity at point of impact at a hundred of so yards.
 
I am wondering simply if you all think it would be enough to take down a deer on the spot, and if not what level of hunting could it be used for, i will check out the laws for air rifles, but i am just wanting to know about your opinion on the power.
Here is the gun
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Dragon_Claw_Dual_Tank_Air_Rifle/2500
Again, i know people have taken deer on the spot with it, i am just wondering
if they got a lucky head shot, or if it is enough.
 
I can't imagine a big, light-for-caliber, and slow moving bullet is going to have any sort of range. I guess if you hit the deer in the right spot and were close enough to it it would kill it though
 
I think this is probably an example of a technology being taken past the point of dimishing marginal returns, but it's only $600.00

I think it's a pretty interesting idea.

How much do the rounds cost?

It might be fun to use it against hogs...
 
It looks like that thing has about the same power as the .455 Webley cartridge, which was something less than what our .45 ACP churned up.

Personally I wouldn't shoot anything larger than a rabbit with it.
 
Also I would like to mention that if tracking a deer after they got wounded is animal cruelty ,I would think that there would be ALOT of hunters in jail or on probation and went to court! Good Luck and Have fun you can do it, I seen people with smaller caliber airguns shoot deer in the head or neck and kill them. Last time I seen was a guy on a video,shooting a doe,It wasnt a big one but he took it down.
 
Only 650 fps? For game animals at distance? I will pass on that. I like hunting, not tracking. There's a reason they are two different words.
 
I did not state Bullethole1 that tracking a hit animal was against the law. I questioned whether using an air gun was legal in the poster's State. I think most States do not allow air guns for deer.

I do believe most hunters would like as clean a kill as possible; although it does not always happen to perfection. None of us want game or wildlife to suffer.

But Yes, I do believe using an inappropriate weapon resulting in needless suffering to game is cruelty.

The guy in the video needs to join a track or football team. I have never seen anyone cover 30 yards as quickly as he did on the video. He appears he was only ten yards away from the target at the most. It is possible he shortened the video after shooting and moving to the target.
 
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I saw video's online of people shooting through bricks at 80 yards and records of people getting deer, so i feel confident for deer.

I doubt it's legal for deer. Even if it was, I doubt it has enough energy at distance to humanely shoot a deer.

Keep in mind that you aren't always goign to make a good shot. In those cases, you want as much energy as possible to put down your prey and allow yourself the ability to put the deer down quickly.
 
Yes, big bore airguns are used in other countries for hunting. However, this is the first I've heard of a .50 caliber airgun. The fps seems a little low. I believe there are some 9mm air guns that are better for hunting dear sized animals. You really have to look at the kinetic energy as determined at whatever distance you will be shooting.

I'm not sure that I understand the comments about cruelty using PCP air rifles for hunting. Certainly, no more inhumane than a bow that shoots an arrow at 250 - 300 fps.
 
SKANS

An aside in this thread: an arrow kills by hemorrage while a bullet kills by energy. Your comparing apples to oranges.
 
If someone has no idea about the effectiveness of these guns... Please don't act like they are not capable...

These type of guns have killed grizzly bears on down including hundreds of thousands of Deer and Feral hogs!

To the OP... I suggest you research the appropriate forums for these weapons. All you will hear on TFL is from folks with absolutely no clue about them.

as for this particular rifle, I do not know. I am yet to justify making the jump to them from my Gamo .177 cal. or from my powder fired arms.

Brent
 
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