Question to LEOs on this list

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cornered rat

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When you do a traffic stop, what kind of info comes up on local/out-of-state visitors?

I.e., if I just got a Kolibri 4.25mm auto, would they know it and expect me to carry it? What about yet another quad 50bmg...would they want to see the camper in more detail? Same for CCW permits? So on...what does come when you run the plates?
 
I am just curious. These days I do not carry, mostly out of respect for Q's wishes. However, even if I have nothing on me and I do not speed, I would like to know the SOP and the amount of info on me that's out there...

And if I ever drive anything that heavy, it would be a Merkava II and I won't bother pulling over (the cannon is stabilized).

[This message has been edited by cornered rat (edited June 07, 1999).]
 
In Clark County, Nevada, every fairly recent police contact you have comes up on their ancient SCOPE computer. It's not just warrants and convictions and arrests (I think they purge arrests not leading to convictions after 5 years...)

So, if you're government approved to serve liquor, your work card status shows up. If you're government approved to work in a casino, that work card status shows up.

And if you don't live in Boulder City, which somehow escaped the registration requirement, every handgun you have registered with the local fuzz (as required) shows up too.

The ONE element of sanity in that area is that once you've already registered one handgun, the Las Vegas 3-day wait is no longer applicable.

No reason for a waiting period of you already have one, eh?

No, I'm not LEO. I just did a ride-along once. The local illegal immigrants apparently have no clue that once you have a warrant, the system never forgets. It doesn't matter who started the fight, the one with warrants goes to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200, no other questions asked.

And if you're EVER arrested, a description of all your tatoos gets entered into a nice little database. No ID? No problem! But it may take up to 3 days of sitting in the tank for them to ID you from the tatoos. Sometimes it takes only five minutes. I saw that one.
 
In other words, be low key and stay away from the cops inasmuch as possible. Hmmm...

I was never one for tattoos anyway, esp. the numbers kind...

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"Disarm, then past the barbed wire, into the oven and out of the smoke-stack..."
 
If you don't have computers in the vehicles, (our county doesn't) all you usaully get is "all clear" . IF, however there are warrants on the individual, the dispatcher will advise you of the nature of the warrant(s).

On Cars, we get registratrant's name and address. Or, it might come up stolen.

Other info is available, we can ask about previous traffic and the dispatcher's screen does (in TN) have whether or not the individual has a valid CCW permit, though I have never had a dispatcher tell me if I did not ask.

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Not long ago, while renewing my drivers license, I noticed on the renewal form the section marked restrictions. The usual 01 code (corrective lens) was there, but also one I had never noticed before, code 91. A quick check of the codes listed on the back of the license and there is no code 91. So I ask the clerk:
"What's a code 91?"
clerk: "Do you have a handgun permit?"
me: "Yes"
clerk: " that's a code 91. Don't worry, it doesn't get printed on the actual license. It only shows up if an officer runs a make on you."

Sure enough, it's not on my license. But, if I get pulled over the officer will know soon enough.
 
So what does everyone think about the appropriateness of information about your CCW (or whatever you want to call it) appearing on your driver’s license return?

I say it’s none of their business.

To answer the question that started this thread: In WA, on a routine traffic stop, the vehicle registration is run, the vehicle is checked for stolen and associated warrants for arrest and missing person entries. Vehicle registration includes the make/model/year, sometimes color, information about when the registration expires, the numbers of the registration tabs that are on the plate, the number of the previous tabs that were on the plate, the name and address of both the registered owner (you) and the legal owner (bank.) Also the VIN of the vehicle, and the date the vehicle was most recently titled, and the title number. Sometimes the driver's license number of the owner is displayed. Out of state returns are different. Every state is different.

The person is routinely checked for their driver's license status, which only shows information about that license, and the number of convictions for DWI, Reckless Driving, Vehicular Homicide and Vehicular Assault. Sometimes SSN is on the license return (it's optional when renewing/applying for a license.) License return also displays a physical description on the licensee. Other state's license returns are different. Every state is different.

The person is also run through WACIC/NCIC (state and national database of warrants, missing entries, etc. Does not include criminal history information.)


[This message has been edited by deanf (edited June 07, 1999).]
 
In TN, as pointed out earlier, CCW holders are required to inform LEOs about their guns, if they have them on, so the information is pertinent.
 
How, if you're required to inform, is the information pertinent? If you’ve carrying, you inform, and that takes the place of the note on the license return. If you don’t have a gun, it doesn’t matter either.

I’ve just got a problem with the government collecting all sorts of information on me, and then linking it all together, so all agents have easy access to all information. I think it should be as difficult as possible for the government (no matter how harmless the individual agent’s intentions) to find out details about my life that are none of their business.

(And I use all this linked information I wrote of everyday in my job, and I still hate it.)


[This message has been edited by deanf (edited June 08, 1999).]
 
If I had a computer in my patrol car, the first thing I would do is RELAX ( a little
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) a little if I saw a positive on the CCW section.

UNLESS I was pulling someone over for a suspected DUI, you can probly figure out why.
 
if they run a check in Arkansas, they also inform the LEO of a CCW permit. FWIW

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