Question on CCW interstate reciprocity (not national reciprocity)

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Futo Inu

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OK, we've touched on this before, but I wonder if anyone has any new info on this subject:

Which state is the best one to go to, that allows non-residents to appy for and obtain a CCW, which will have reciprocity in the MOST other states. For example, I live in Oklahoma. But why should I pay the high fees I'm paying to get on Oklahoma CCW, when I could just apply for and obtain a Utah CCW, which happens to have reciprocity with OK (so I can carry here) and also have reciprocity with MORE states than my Oklahoma CCW does, esp. if this can be done for less money? So what's the latest on this? Anyone have more extensive Utah CCW info?
 
I didn't know that a person who lived in one state could get a CCW in another state, as a non-resident???

I do know that Idaho honors all other States' CCWs. J.B.
 
One problem with your plan.

Most, if not all, states require that you have a CCW from your state of residence before you can get their CCW.

And, I sincerely doubt that Oklahoma would acccpt you having a Utah CCW if you live in Oklahoma. Sort of like living in OK and registering your cars in UT....
 
Utah is pretty good. I don't know of anything in the law that requires you to have a CCW from your own state before you get a Utah CCW (I could be wrong. I haven't looked it up.)

But: The situation in Utah may not be good very much longer. There have been some big pushes recently to change things for the worse.

Davis/Hawkins for governor, Mylar for Attorney General. Maybe things will get better then.
 
I strongly recommend you consult www.packing.org. They have an absolutely first-rate database re all the CCW laws and regulations.

This said, in general, Mike is correct: Normally one needs a "residential" CCW permit from his home state to apply for a "non-resident" permit in other states.

Finally, it is my understanding the Florida, Utah, Arizona, and New Hampshire are among the best states for non-resident permits (most reciprocity and least hassle).
 
I don't know that you're going to be much ahead money wise if you get a non-resident permit from some other state. For example I think the Utah fee is $59 (don't know if it's the same for non-resident)and Oklahoma is $100. From reading the info at packing.org the paperwork and other requirements (a class) look to be roughly the same in both states. Assuming you'd have to pay for the class in either case - and for the fingerprinting service and photographs, those expenses should be a wash. So all in all you'd be saving roughly $40 over the course of the 4 year term of the permit - or about $0.85 a month.

I'm not sure I'd bother - but YMMV.

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Jim Fox
 
I have my paperwork in for my Utah, and Florida permits... The CA CCW is going to be tough, but I hope to use the other 2 for increased justification. It seems that if I inform my CLEO that I also have permits from these states, it could be tough for him (actually her in my case) to decline for just cause. If I had to go to court, it seems likely that the argument of Why shouldn't I be allowed to carry in my home state if I can legally carry in other states.

The Florida permit is the easiest, and offers more reciprocity. Just needed a copy of my DD-214 for certication.

The Utah permit required a sign-off by a certified instructor, which was easy enough.

The AZ permit is open for non-residents, but the training must be completed within the boundaries of the state.

TX also offers permits for non-residents, but only if their home state doesn't issue.

Packing.org is a great resource of information...

FWIW... There is no difference on the UT permit for "resident" vs. "non-resident" This may only be a situation where you drivers license may not match the CCW info, but the actual CCW permit is no different, and has no "status" contained on it... Don't know about the others...

I just don't think you're going to get real far by doing one instead of the other... You will, however get further by doing both... and if you do, I suggest doing the Florida one as well, even more reciprocity.

Enjoy!
 
It's tough to get a CCW in CA. The Orange County Sheriff is about the only one I know of who is issuing CCWs (not counting the LA County Sheriff, who gives out CCWs to only the rich and famous).

Most of the people I know who are getting out of state non-resident CCWs are getting them from Utah, because they have more reciprocity agreements, and you can meet the training requirement by taking a course here, rather than having to go to AZ over a weekend.

For Utah CCW info: http://www.bci.state.ut.us/cfdefault.html
 
Some state reciprocities apply to people who are residents of the state issuing the reciprocal license. Example: Florida and Arkansas have reciprocity. Florida and Texas do not. If a Texan gets an Arkansas CCW he is NOT legal in Florida since he is not a resident of Arkansas.

Another example: A Michigan native gets a non-resident New Hampshire CCW to carry legally in Michigan. It doesn't work because Michigan will not honor an out-of-state CCW for a native even though a visitor with an out-of-state CCW is okay.

Get the CCW for the state in which you have residence. Then look at the states hat issue non-resident licenses and decide if you can benefit from those.
 
Ahhhhh, I didn't realize the non-resident CCW would require a resident CCW first. In other words, if I must have a current Oklahoma CCW to get another state's non-res CCW, then you're right, it's not worth the effort. I thought one could simply apply for the non-resident CCW without even having one at all anywhere. But what if I applied while my OK CCW was current, then let my OK one lapse, and just renew my Utah one (or FLA, or whatever). Did you think proof of the resident one being current will be required with EACH renewal? I'll have to check the details. RWK, thanks for the link!
 
The license will have your address on it, right? So if you whip out a Utah license with an Oklahoma address the officer will just shake his head and stare at you from under the Smokie hat. Definitely check out the site and where possible read the actual text of the law granting reciprocity. Read it carefully. Then read it again. In Florida the reciprocity isn't granted to the license, it's granted to the citizen of the other state who has the license. A subtle but important difference.
 
live in Salt Lake City, My CCW instructor has several friends living in Ok that he has trained, He knows the ins and out's.
ray@fpconsulting.net
 
live in Salt Lake City, My CCW instructor has several friends living in Ok that he has trained, He knows the ins and out's.
ray@fpconsulting.net
 
Big Bear: Excellent!

As to what smoky thinks, who gives a rat's arse? If I have a valid Utah CCW, and if Oklahoma recognizes reciprocity with Utah, then it's absolutely irrelevant where I live or whether I have an Oklahoma CCW. That's the beauty of it!
 
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