Question for Mr. Harry Bonar...

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XLT

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Mr. Bonar,

You have posted a very helpful write up about using the large ring mauser action for sporterizing... but I have an 1893 pattern Turk that has some pretty severe pitting under the wood line and I was wondering if, in your opinion, there is an acceptable rechambering/rebarreling option for these actions?

Thanks in advance for any help...

XLT
 
Turk 38 rust & pitting

Sir;
That has troubled me also and I'd say that if the pitting is very deep and uniform along the "wood line" I'd be leary of using it. If it's just spotty and not too deep I'd use it.
The good thing about the Turkish 38 is that the reciever ring is thicker than the VZ24 style Mauser actions. The Turkish thread size is .980X12, while the 98 standard is 1.100! This makes the Turk a little less likely to have pitting bother it. I'd try to measure depth of the pitting and then compare it to another standard action thickness. I've never heard of action failure due to pitting along the wood line but it could happen.
Also, the upper handguard extension on the Turk can be turned off and you'll end up with the same length of ring as a VZ24. It is unthreaded. Also, your action may have a pronounced high bridge in the rear which can be contoured just like the 98.
Good luck and hope it works.
Harry B.
 
Is the 1893 pattern that the OP mentioned the same as the 1938 Turk? I've built quite a few nice rifles on the '38 actions ... many with Rem700 take-off barrels that I have re-threaded. It's good to have a lathe! All that being said, I've finally come to the conclusion that the Czech Mausers are better (smoother) actions to use ... I wish that I had bought more of those when they were really cheap!

Saands
 
turk

Sir;
As long as the shank of the Remington barrels will turn to .980 major diameter you're O.K. I think they are - I don't remember and I'm not in my shop right now.
I have found the Turkish 38 actions make fine sporting rifles also. I do like the Redfields one piece mount on the 38s. On the earlier ones with the slot in the front reciever ring for feeding clearance you need to recontour that rear base! I think many of these actions were actually built by the Czechs for Turkey so they're good strong actions. I hope I've been of some help!
Harry B.
 
Sorry gentlemen, was on a retreat (I'm the pastor... so it was not so much of a "retreat", it was busy :) )


Thank you for the info, Mr. Bonar... I guess I should've been more specific about my question... I am referring to the 1893 pattern mauser, with only two locking lugs (cock on close)...

I was wondering if the action was strong enough for sporterizing as one of my 1893's has some pitting on the barrel (probably still safe to shoot, just doesn't put me at ease)...

Lower pressure modern cartridge wouldn't bother me but didn't know whether that was safe or not?
 
93 Mauser

Sir;
I thought it was one of the older Turkish Mausers - sorry about that!
If yours is a 93 Mauser it has small ring mauser and the thread will still be .980X12. As before, I'd be very doubtful if you've got serious pitting about using it! The bolt on the 93 should have a flat at the bottom of the head - the 95s did not.
I'd get a VZ24 to sporterize.
Harry B.
 
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