Question for CMP Club Members

MilesTeg

New member
Like others, I am interested in getting a CMP Garand and have thought about joining a club. However, I have a few questions about the 50 round min. qualifying matches.

What rifles are you allowed to use? I have an Enfield No. 4, AR15 and a couple of hunting rifles. Could I use one of those?

Are these open sight or scoped matches?

How exactly does the 50 round qualifying work?

Does anyone know of any CMP clubs in the Portland, Oregon area?


Thanks



Despite what is said - ignorance is not bliss.
 
Miles,

Check the CMP website and rules to be sure, but it is my understanding that your CMP qualifier must be shot with a US Service Rifle. This means a M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M14, or M16 type weapon in military configuration (no scopes).

Your AR15 sounds like it might work for you as long as it is an A1 or A2 version (20" bbl. with iron sights and fixed carry handle).

If you don't have a rifle that meats this criteria, most clubs have rifles (usually Garands) that they will loan to guys shooting their qualification match.

For the nearest CMP club to you, also check the CMP website: http://www.odcmp.com

Best regards & good luck,
Swampy
 
swampyMO said: "Check the CMP website and rules to be sure, but it is my understanding that your CMP qualifier must be shot with a US Service Rifle. This means a M1 Garand, M1 Carbine, M14, or M16 type weapon in military configuration."

This is incorrect. If you check the CMP web site, and go to the M1 Garand packet, you will find that it says:

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3. To establish your eligibility under CMP marksmanship participation criteria, photocopy and return the copy of one of the following:

- proof of CMP or Military Distinguished Rifleman ... status.

- Current Instructor or Coach Certification for Rifle or Pistol.

- A dated NRA or USA Shooting classification card, temporary score record book, or match bulleting showing that you have fired at least 50 shots in an NRA, CMP, or USA Shooting sanctioned rifle or pistol competition.

[continues]

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Here's the url for the above:

http://www.odcmp.com/Forms/m1.pdf

You can shoot in a Match Rifle competition, rather than a Service Rifle competition. Whatever rifle you use, it must have iron sights (no scopes), no muzzle brake (flash hiders ok). For bolt action guns, you'll need a rifle that accepts stripper clips.

Your Enfield No. 4 would qualify as a match rifle, provided you haven't put a scope on it. Your AR15 will qualify for service rifle if it is in standard trim: if it has a 20" barrel, fixed handle (no detachables allowed), iron sights, and no muzzle brake (flash hiders ok), etc.

Most CMP clubs will hold clinics that teach you the match basics. Very worthwhile. Note that it isn't a "qualification" per se. There's no minimum score that you have to achieve for the CMP. All you have to do is fire 50 rounds in competition. The course of fire varies, but usually it is something like this:

22 rounds slowfire (2 sighters and 20 for record), standing, unsupported in 22 minutes at 200 yards.

10 rounds rapid fire, standing to sitting, with two sighters, in 60 seconds at 200 yards.

10 rounds rapid fire, standing to prone, with two sighters, in 70 seconds at 300 yards.

22 rounds slowfire, prone, in 22 minutes at 600 yards.

For the rapid fire stages, with a bolt gun you must load 5 rounds and then reload with 5 rounds. For a magazine fed gun, you must load one magazine with 2 rounds and one with 8 rounds.

For clubs that don't have 600 yard ranges, they can use reduced size targets.

M1911
 
The folks in our CMP club typically do their qualifing with .22's. My son and I qualified with the clubs Mossberg M44's.
 
You may not even need to qualify with a rifle. When I applied last year I called the ODCMP and was allowed to use my qualification for my CCW. Give the people a call, you might be surprised at what you hear.

--Mike From Iowa
 
My first CMP match, I used one of the guys at the clubs Garand. I drove up with my money and nothing else. The flyer said just show up, so I did. They let me shoot a rifle and had ammunition there. If I am at a match and there is someone there that wants to shoot, they can by all means use my Garand. There are usually 10 stock (straight from the CMP) Garands at a match.

Also, it depends on the club. If I showed up with my 16" AR15 and wanted to shoot the match, no one would care at my club. We all do it for fun. The more, the merrier.

Just go to a shoot and bring what ever you have. If they won't let you shoot it, then I am sure someone has something that you can.
 
As noted above, if you have a current rifle or pistol instructors certificate, you don't have to do the shooting part. An NRA instructors certificate or state handgun instructor certificate will work.
 
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