Question about Remington VTR
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mrawesome22
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It is safe to shoot 223Rem in a 5.56NATO chamber.
It is not safe to shoot 5.56NATO in a 223Rem chamber.
It is not safe to shoot 5.56NATO in a 223Rem chamber.
DeerSlayer86
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NOPE
The safest way to go about this is to shoot only what is stamped on the barrel. I dont care what people say about those rounds being interchangeable. Idiocracy! And people who say the same about the 308 and the 7.62? Look at the bullet diameter...not the same .308 vs a .310(7.62)? How is this even a discussion??
The safest way to go about this is to shoot only what is stamped on the barrel. I dont care what people say about those rounds being interchangeable. Idiocracy! And people who say the same about the 308 and the 7.62? Look at the bullet diameter...not the same .308 vs a .310(7.62)? How is this even a discussion??
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No I was just thinking about it and I couldn't remember if it was a 5.56 or .223 since some people use them interchangeably.
Since I didn't have the rifle on hand at the time I figured I would ask on here? I'll check tomorrow I'm to tired tonight, and let you guys know whats on it. I'm pretty sure its .223 tho. 
No I was just thinking about it and I couldn't remember if it was a 5.56 or .223 since some people use them interchangeably.
Since I didn't have the rifle on hand at the time I figured I would ask on here? I'll check tomorrow I'm to tired tonight, and let you guys know whats on it. I'm pretty sure its .223 tho. Sweet Shooter
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Specific to 700s
I would not shoot 62gr 5.56 without checking with a pulled bullet in an OAL gauge that the round is not engaging the lands upon chambering.
I have shot hundreds of the 55gr even with the NATO cross headstamp.
What could go wrong? I have had more pierced primers and case head issues from SAAMI .223. None, never, ever, ever with 5.56.
5.56 should have crimped pockets and necks.
The M700 bolt construction principle is standard for all calibers long or short.
700s are very good at safely getting rid of gas that might come back at you... and like I said I've had it from SAAMI 223 several times with several different 700s and ammo brands.
223/5.56 barrels have an awful lot of steel around the bore compared to bigger calibers.
Could someone please show me a photo or an article of a verified "incident" from shooting issued 5.56 in a .223. I am genuinely longing to have it proven.
I have never heard of it going wrong.
-SS-
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I would not shoot 62gr 5.56 without checking with a pulled bullet in an OAL gauge that the round is not engaging the lands upon chambering.
I have shot hundreds of the 55gr even with the NATO cross headstamp.
What could go wrong? I have had more pierced primers and case head issues from SAAMI .223. None, never, ever, ever with 5.56.
5.56 should have crimped pockets and necks.
The M700 bolt construction principle is standard for all calibers long or short.
700s are very good at safely getting rid of gas that might come back at you... and like I said I've had it from SAAMI 223 several times with several different 700s and ammo brands.
223/5.56 barrels have an awful lot of steel around the bore compared to bigger calibers.
Could someone please show me a photo or an article of a verified "incident" from shooting issued 5.56 in a .223. I am genuinely longing to have it proven.
I have never heard of it going wrong.
-SS-
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.308 diameter bullets are the same as 7.62mm bullets.
7.62mm does not equal .310, it's actually 0.299 which is rounded to .30 i.e. ".30 cal" which is just a generic nomenclature for .308/7.62mm bullets.
Look at the 8mm Mauser. It uses a bullet of .323 inches in diameter. The original was .318. Neither of those are actually 8mm.
Cartridge designations don't always make sense.
Sweet Shooter
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@Discern
Chamber pressure may be marginally higher but still well within proof limits. Extra headspace has little to do with it as the 700 has a tighter headspace compared to a 5.56 chamber—it's the amount of leade in the chamber of a 5.56 that is more generous. Which is why I suggest gauging with a pulled bullet if using the 62gr. 5.56 stuff.
-SS-
Chamber pressure may be marginally higher but still well within proof limits. Extra headspace has little to do with it as the 700 has a tighter headspace compared to a 5.56 chamber—it's the amount of leade in the chamber of a 5.56 that is more generous. Which is why I suggest gauging with a pulled bullet if using the 62gr. 5.56 stuff.
-SS-
People have been doing it with no problems for years. It seems to only be an issue on the internet and so far no one has been able to document a single issue.
Wow, where do these folks come from.
308 and 7.62 are identical dimensionally. The 7.62 is simply the military designation vs civilian name for the same cartridge. Now here there "could" be a slight difference. Many 308 civilian loads are loaded to higher pressure than the military loads. They will fit in the chamber just fine, but the gun may not function reilably with the hotter loads. Might beat up the rifle a little quicker, but once again I've never seen a bit of documentation that it could be dangerous.
Wow, where do these folks come from.
308 and 7.62 are identical dimensionally. The 7.62 is simply the military designation vs civilian name for the same cartridge. Now here there "could" be a slight difference. Many 308 civilian loads are loaded to higher pressure than the military loads. They will fit in the chamber just fine, but the gun may not function reilably with the hotter loads. Might beat up the rifle a little quicker, but once again I've never seen a bit of documentation that it could be dangerous.
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