Q on Rem 700 Keyed Bolt

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I downloaded the 2001 Remington Rifle Catalog, and noticed that Rem rifles have a keyed switch on the bolt assembly, allowing the bolt to be locked in the open position.

The pics look like it's the same type of switch Rem used on the trigger safety of the 870 series shotguns.

If any of you own one of the 700s with the keyed bolt, is it possible to lock the bolt open without use of the key? This can be done with the shotgun keyed safeties (I've done this myself with just my finger), but the shotgun parts can be replaced with non-keyed parts from older 870s. I don't think there is a similar part on the pre-bolt keyed rifles, that can be replaced, is there?

I don't think the safety feature is a bad idea on the rifle (I don't like it on the shotgun), but I'd just hate to have the bolt get locked open in the field, and have to depend on a key to unlock it.

If the new safety features can be accidentally engaged, then I'll narrow my search for a new rifle to older rifles, or another manufacturer (still narrowed down to Rem, Win, and Sav).

Thanks
 
just another sellout

sold out just like taurus. built-in, non-removable gun locks to make chuck schumer and sarah brady proud. i wouldn't ever buy a firearm with a built-in, non-removable gun lock. i let remington slide on purposefully not marketing 'le' products to the general public and dumbing down quality on their shoguns (plastic), but this just 'affect's the gun too much. more complicated, more possibility of **** ups. i have keys for my truck and house not my guns. fwiw i've lost keys and have had locks fail.
 
Remington did not sell out just like Taurus! They made a business decision based on the cost of installing these devises over being sued for not having them. A devise that once engaged does absolutely nothing or have to fend off an attorney, defending his client from Darwinism.

Once engaged, the locking device cannot be locked again without the use of the key.

Lets just help the forces against our culture and boycott the entire gun industry.

Robert
 
i'm not boycotting remington because they sold out. i'm not even boycotting remington. ****, they sold out politically long before this lock thing any way. just like many other ammo and gun manufacturers have that i am still a consumer of. i might even buy a 870police magnum in the future and get rid of the REMOVABLE key lock safety in the future if i can't get the bugs worked out of my mossberg 590a1.

i'm just not even going to consider a firearm with a built-in, non-removable gun lock. no different than preferring a revolver over an autoloader, controlled feed over push feed, blind magazines to hinged floor plates, big slow bullets to small fast ones, etc. it's a matter of what i prefer.
 
Maybe it's just me. I don't own any Taurus products, but I consider the lock on Taurus revolvers an innovation, not a sell out. It works and is unobtrusive as well. Nice of Taurus to throw in an NRA membership with every new handgun sold too.

I'm not a fan of all PC safeties though. I hate the cross bolt safety on my Marlin 1895SS. Stupid idea. Nothing like squeezing the trigger on an important shot only to realize that !@#$%%^ safety was bumped on. Safeties don't belong on lever-action rifles, at least not MY lever-action rifles. But, while I don't need one, I wouldn't object to a Taurus style hammer lock if Marlin put one on their lever guns. YMMV
 
I have to disagree

I don't know what could possibly be more PC than a built-in, non-removable gunlock on a firearm. Except for 'smart guns'. The Marlin safety is at least removable.
 
I have noticed no problems on my 710 and 870 nor has my father had any trouble with his 1187 SPS 3.5" Mag. Keep a key in your gear at all times and you are good to go.

The Taurus version is nifty and an excellent innovation if the weapon will be outside of it's rightful home, a safe and not on the personof it's owner.

The lever action thing is a heads up for me. It makes me aware of the condition of my gun. When I am in the stand or stalking, it goes off safety.
 
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