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Ah yes, where things get obscure. After smokeless powder was invented, it was quick to perfect. But in between the last serving days of Joe Black (a name I definitely did not just decide to give to BP at this instant for creating this excessively lengthy and sarcastic joke) and nitrocellulose, people were caught up in other inventions that bridged the two worlds.
Semi smokeless powder is rarely discussed, mainly because it saw little if any military service, and its formulation is seldom explained. Who knows if they were even referred to as semi smokeless. Today, mixing BP and SL is considered highly hazardous. Well, one confirmed use of semi smokeless was in the Austro Hungarian straight pulls, for an early version of the 8x50mmR Mannlicher. Designated 8mm M.1890 scharfe-patrone. It fires a 244 grain bullet at 1950 fps. What it used for propellant is something I have yet to figure out. Whether it was a mix of smokeless and black powder, or something entirely.
Another form of supposed semi smokeless might be the obscure Schultze powder. Pellets of wood pulp nitrated and impregnated with Barium nitrate. It was famous for its time, but clearly it went into obscurity. Generally, this reveals something interesting, why did it need the extra nitrate. Well, I soon learned that nitrocellulose can be nitrated to a varying degree, and generally speaking the less nitrogen, the less potent, but the more safer. I then tried to find a term for lightly nitrated cellulose, which turns out to be used in later grades of film stock and modern day nitro cellulose products like ping pong balls, plastics and lacquers. Which is why they probably don't explode. The lightly nitrated cellulose is known as pyroxylin. It doesn't inspire confidence considering it has pyro in the name.
I wondered if manufactures of smokeless powders vary the degree of nitration in their propellants. It was inconclusive, but what I did figure out is that pyroxylin was intended as a safer alternative to fully nitrated cellulose. Another thing that I could only say was that when searching up Khyber Pass weaponry, I heard nitrate film stock was chopped up and used as smokeless powder.
Other than that. The only article I could find on lightly nitrated cellulose being used as a propellant is this:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/pyroxylin-or-gun-cotton/
It doesn't say very much, but it gets me thinking- would this make a form of smokeless propellant with operating pressures within the realms of early compressed black powder military loads?
Semi smokeless powder is rarely discussed, mainly because it saw little if any military service, and its formulation is seldom explained. Who knows if they were even referred to as semi smokeless. Today, mixing BP and SL is considered highly hazardous. Well, one confirmed use of semi smokeless was in the Austro Hungarian straight pulls, for an early version of the 8x50mmR Mannlicher. Designated 8mm M.1890 scharfe-patrone. It fires a 244 grain bullet at 1950 fps. What it used for propellant is something I have yet to figure out. Whether it was a mix of smokeless and black powder, or something entirely.
Another form of supposed semi smokeless might be the obscure Schultze powder. Pellets of wood pulp nitrated and impregnated with Barium nitrate. It was famous for its time, but clearly it went into obscurity. Generally, this reveals something interesting, why did it need the extra nitrate. Well, I soon learned that nitrocellulose can be nitrated to a varying degree, and generally speaking the less nitrogen, the less potent, but the more safer. I then tried to find a term for lightly nitrated cellulose, which turns out to be used in later grades of film stock and modern day nitro cellulose products like ping pong balls, plastics and lacquers. Which is why they probably don't explode. The lightly nitrated cellulose is known as pyroxylin. It doesn't inspire confidence considering it has pyro in the name.
I wondered if manufactures of smokeless powders vary the degree of nitration in their propellants. It was inconclusive, but what I did figure out is that pyroxylin was intended as a safer alternative to fully nitrated cellulose. Another thing that I could only say was that when searching up Khyber Pass weaponry, I heard nitrate film stock was chopped up and used as smokeless powder.
Other than that. The only article I could find on lightly nitrated cellulose being used as a propellant is this:
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/pyroxylin-or-gun-cotton/
It doesn't say very much, but it gets me thinking- would this make a form of smokeless propellant with operating pressures within the realms of early compressed black powder military loads?