Purse Snatcher Shooter INDICTED

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In the previous thread, http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=569553 , the would be heroine was shown to have acted in a poor manner regardling her handling of a pistol around other Good Sams and a purse snatching suspect, and then shooting at the suspect when he broke free. Now she has been indicted for the shooting.

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts...cle_f79a3fb3-a6f5-5b60-bfb1-96a3df953fbc.html

It does not appear that she has a concealed handgun license (so maybe has never had any instruction about salient laws relevant to the type of incident in which she was involved). Specifics of the charge are currently sealed...

Deadly conduct can be a Class A misdemeanor or a third-degree felony, depending on how it is alleged. That was unclear Wednesday, because the indictment remains sealed.
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Does seem to be deadly conduct to me.

Perhaps she was ignorant of the law, but I have the suspicion that she was more wanting to be the hero at a time when one really wasn't needed. She has fulfilled the stereotype that many of us work to overcome
 
Yah, kinda saw THAT one coming... Nobody's ends were advanced by her actions, it seems. Now, the anti-CCW flakes have a casus belli, deep in the heart of Texas.
 
Maybe, maybe not. As she was NOT a CCW person, the argument is without merit specifically because she would not have have the mandatory legal familiarizaiton with the law and testing of a Texas CHL holder.
 
Probably won't happen, but a jury could look at this, say 'No one was harmed', and return a Not Guilty verdict in short order for anything except unlicensed carry. Stranger things have happened.
 
I doubt this will go to trial. A decent attorney will likely bargain for a guilty plea on a misdemeanor. Hopefully, she gets to retain her gun owning rights and will see the benefits of training and education.
 
There is something I find a little troubling about the video. Due to the article I "know" that the kid was a purse snatcher. Just viewing the video, the kid could be anything, including a victim. He could be an innocent African American Bible student being beaten up by some racist
White guys. My point is that just by looking at the video, it's not clear with 100% certainty that the kid is the bad guy,
It looks to me like she was being irresponsible.
My guess is that unless she has some local political friends, she's going to be fighting an uphill battle. I'd be surprised if she comes out of this being able to own or even handle a gun.
 
Clock, I bet you are troubled a lot, huh? Nobody suggested that the video included the original illegal act of purse snatching, so no reason to be troubled by the fact that part of the incident is not shown in the video.
 
"Clock, I bet you are troubled a lot, huh? Nobody suggested that the video included the original illegal act of purse snatching, so no reason to be troubled by the fact that part of the incident is not shown in the video. "

In both threads regarding this incident the term purse snatcher is used. This colors the way we view the event. Based just on the video, I would have some doubt about what was going on. I'll stand on my statement that the shooting seemed irresponsible.
 
Fortunately, there are witnesses, including a victim, to the crime, so judgment based on the presence or absence of a partial video record is not a valid response.
 
In both threads regarding this incident the term purse snatcher is used. This colors the way we view the event. Based just on the video, I would have some doubt about what was going on.
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Clock, the information was provided by the cops as to the disposition of the purse snatcher. If you have a problem with the justification, take it up with the cops to the media. Again, nobody is claiming the video shows everything that happened BEFORE the apparent illegal discharge of the gun in a non-lethal situation.
 
If the alleged purse snatcher gave the lady cause to fear for her life... which included him running away... then she might be justified... but I don't see that happening. She got scared, she made a decision and it was the wrong decision. I am not saying that I won't someday have to make a judgement call... but I certainly hope that I am more level-headed!

This lady gave a face to "trigger-happy-gun-toting-untrained-nutjobs" and its very sad.

If my life is threatened, I am going to try to de-escalate, I am going to try to run away, I am going to verbally warn the person threaten me, I am going brandish, and if I feel my life or an "innocent life" near me is going to end... THEN and ONLY THEN would I fire my weapon. This can all happen in fractions of seconds, and we aren't always going think clearly. Training. Practice.

Get a nerf gun and some buddies, run through scenarios and verbally warn each other. Some gun stores have really cool simulators that go through some possible scenarios, forcing you to make split second decisions.

I am a boy scout, being prepared is kind of my thing :D
 
Assumption the facts area as reported, but given that assumption:
This woman should lose her right to carry a firearm. She should lose her right to OWN a firearm. She has clearly demonstrated she is not responsible enough to handle a firearm. The state should also consider taking her drivers license if she has one.
Anyone who thinks it is acceptable to discharge a firearm at someone who is clearly fleeing without possession of any stolen property should not be carrying a firearm. Anyone who thinks shooting over a persons head, in an commercial building that almost certainly has a roof supported by steel girders, should not be carrying. Where did that bullet end up?
 
Well jw, I don't think they are going to change the laws of the state or country to suit this case. She may keep her ability to own firearms if she is prosecuted or pleads to a misdemeanor. They are not going to summarily take away her DL for a non-DL-related incident.
 
"Assumption the facts area as reported, but given that assumption:
This woman should lose her right to carry a firearm. She should lose her right to OWN a firearm. She has clearly demonstrated she is not responsible enough to handle a firearm. The state should also consider taking her drivers license if she has one.
Anyone who thinks it is acceptable to discharge a firearm at someone who is clearly fleeing without possession of any stolen property should not be carrying a firearm. Anyone who thinks shooting over a persons head, in an commercial building that almost certainly has a roof supported by steel girders, should not be carrying. Where did that bullet end up? "

John,
I couldn't agree more. What I find especially galling is that Texas is a "Shall Issue" state when it comes to concealed carry permits and the bar is pretty low, compared to states like Ca, NY or Illinois. If she had bothered to get her permit she would have least heard that such behavior was irresponsible & usually illegal.
I also think that such behavior reflects badly on responsible firearms owners. It will be up to the Judge, but I have no sympathy for her.
 
It is not an easy process to get a CHL in Texas. Cost me tons of money and lost time.
Now that I have gone through the process in other states, Texas was the most difficult.
Doesn't matter what the media says about Texas, the state has not been a gun loving place, and CHL in widespread use is a fairly recent advancement.

Not too many years ago you could get into serious hot water.

But her behavior was unacceptable, and illegal.
 
If she is not convicted of breaking a law that would result in the loss of rights, then why should they be removed?

And specifically, what justification would you have for suggesting they should take away her DL, LOL.
 
Using a vehicle to flee a crime or to evade the police can result in the suspension of ones DL in many areas. If discharging a gun in a crowded area, when no ones life is in being threatened is decided to be a criminal act, then, using a vehicle to flee, may also be considered a crime. This would hang on whatever the local statutes are and how the judge/DA views it.
 
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