Pump Rifle in .357Mag or .44Mag

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OK, I'm sick and tired of this. I want a rifle in .357Mag, or .44Mag So I can match the ammo with my revolver. I know Timberwolf use to make one, but they are hard to come by, and the price is too much for a gun that I don't know if I can get repaired or find repair parts for if it breaks.

So I called Taurus http://www.taurususa.com 305-624-1115 and asked if they had plans to make something like their Model 62 and Model 72 pump rifles but with .357Mag or bigger calibers. They said no, but their marketing is interested in knowing if I'm the only one that wants one. I can't imagine a pump rifle that holds something like 10-14 shots of .357Mag or .44Mag wouldn't be something someone wants.

I couldn't find an email address, so I called. If someone finds and email address, I hope they post it here. But I hope some of you guys call and tell them this is something you [we] want. Because it is.

Short of manufacturing it myself, I think Taurus is the closest company to do this, because the Model 62 can be used as the base platform. If there are other gun manufactures that you can suggest, I'm all ears.

Thanks, and help me out here guys (gals).
Albert
 
I think you're stuck with several lever-action options for the forseeable future.

I would be happy to be proven wrong.
 
Sounds as handy as a pocket on a shirt. Wonder why no one makes one now? With all the fuss over inaccurate low-powered semi-auto pistol carbines, you'd think that someone would make an accurate, intermediate-powered one. I'm thinking how handy a 5 lb rifle with an 18" barrel, shooting .44 mags and Spl would be.

;)

I'm also wanting to see someone (Marlin?) make a leveraction carbine in .454 Cassul, so the man with a .45 Colt pistol could fire those through it for practice or coup de grace shots, but could hunt with the full powered (and priced!) Cassul loads.
 
Dave R,

I might buy a Marlin 1894, in a .357Mag. But I would love a .357Mag pump or .44Mag pump. 10 Rounds and matches my side arm. That would be great. Also, I have a 20 gauge shotgun, but some women still think it too much kick. So a 357Mag pump would be a GREAT intro to the world of shotguns when I'm trying to get a girl to shoot. And, I think it would be a great ranch gun. I'd rather carry a 357 or 44 Mag pump than a Mini 14. Because I'd probably carry my 357Mag revolver along too.

The idea is, if we drum up the market for it, they will build it. That's how capitalism is suppose to work.

I've been frustrated and wanting one for so long I was wondering what it would take to make my own and become a firearms manufacturer; but the boyz and girlz on TFL slapped down that idea.

If we b*tch about it, they will build it...

Albert
 
"With all the fuss over inaccurate low-powered semi-auto pistol carbines, you'd think that someone would make an accurate, intermediate-powered one. I'm thinking how handy a 5 lb rifle with an 18" barrel, shooting .44 mags and Spl would be. "

Sound sorta like a Ruger Deerfield, 'cept the Deerfield has only a 4 round rotary mag. Don't know whether it would cycle properly with specials, though.

Anybody here shoot a Deerfield?
 
ME ME ME ME!!!! I'll take one in 357, 44, or even better, FORTY ONE MAG!! <slather, drool...> I love my Rossi lever gun.
 
I have one!!! IMI Timber Wolf.357

Made by IMI or Desert Eagle fame. Pump action .357 (also .44Mag was made in blue and stainless). Tubular magazine, forget how many it holds. Integral Weaver rail machined in the receiver. Red dots fit nice, but I have a Leupold 4X rimfire compact on mine. Wood stock and forearm.

and...

and...

It takes down!

I have seen them in Gun List for as high as $750, but I got mine at 1/3 of that and looks like new.
 
Yes! - Seems that I mentioned this months ago on another thread. I now have 2 of the Taurus Model 62 carbines in stainless steel. Both have been more than satisfactory and Taurus needs to explore the idea of marketing a .357 Magnum pump rifle, and possibly a .44 Magnum. In fact, I would like to see one in .45ACP. and/or .45 Colt. One can dream, right?

With todays technology re-dimensioning old designs for handgun calibers should not be a big deal. Re-tooling and setup for actual production still remains a significant investment.

Remington made nice pump rifles back in the 1930's that could be redesigned for handgun calibers. Remington needs some marketing help. They need to find new market niches. Maybe we should write and/or e-mail them as well.
 
Bullets like the .45ACP are difficult in a rifle format, because the bullet length is too short (generally) to cycle reliably. That's why 357Mag's and 44mags make great rounds for a rifle. That doesn't mean some genius can't make a rifle that will cycle .45ACP's reliably. If they can do that, you KNOW 9mm, and .40S&W's will be on that list, but I have my doubts. Wheel gun ammo is more likely.

But like I said, if we keep making noise, they will build it.

Albert
 
AUTiger73

Just wish Taurus would copy the side eject Winchester for their .22RF. I do not like the scout concept or top ejection since I like scoped rifles. If they would make the centerfire model it needs to be side eject.

Remington did make the old pump in some short calibers like .44-40 and .32-20 if I remember correctly. I had the Model 14 in .35 Remington.

I have never seen lever or pump, both which use a lifter due to the tubular mag format, in short auto pistol rounds. That said, why not a magazine fed pump in pistol rounds.
 
Seems like I read that Remington pump rifles of that era had some kind of spiral tubular magazine that prevented the bullet noses or one round from touching the primer of another round ... or am I still just dreaming. Since I have no actual experience with the early Remington pump rifles, I have on idea how such a spiral magazine would function or if it would be reliable.

There is something special about the sound and feel of a pump action firearm. Within my collection I have a Remington Model 760 - .30-06, a Remington Model 870 - 12 gauge, a Remington Model 870 - 16 gauge, and 2 of those Taurus Model 62 carbines.
Certainly would like to have Remington or Taurus pump rifle in .357 Magnum.

As far as the .45 ACP feeding reliably in tubular magazine rifle, I have heard that it is problematic. Some people say the 45Colt round is also a problem because of the rim being to small for reliable extraction.

If this thread shows a lot of interest, everyone should send it to Taurus and Remington as an e-mail attachment.
 
My .35 Remington Model 14 did have a spiral in the tube. Although you could supposedly safely use the pointed 150 grain bullets due to the fact that the spirals directed the nose of the bullet to the outer rim of the cartridge in front, I did not take chances and used 200 grain round nose thumpers.

I felt is was slicker and faster than the new pumps, but with some shooters, the original design could bind up. I believe from my testing that they were twisting the foreend as they pumped the action.

I sold mine for 2 reasons. The curved steel buttplate magnified the recoil, and I wanted a scoped rifle. When I took it to a gunsmith to drill and tap it he said it would be a shame to drill and tap a Model 14 in such good condition as they are collectable. I bought a Remington 700 in .30-06 and kept the pump for a number of years since is was my grandfathers. I sold it at my parents estate auction and it did bring a nice penny.

They are nice guns.
 
Pump or Lever

While we are on the topic of pumps and lever actions, how about a lever action chambered in .475 Linebaugh or the new .480 Ruger....that could be an interesting bear gun.

"True patriot love, in all thy sons command"......yup, only here in Canada could something like that line from our "national" anthem be misconstrued as sexist.
 
I love lever guns, but pumps are just undeniably faster, and can easily be used from a rest. I've actually never fired a centerfire pump rifle. I wonder why there's not an explosion in their demand? :confused:
 
A pump carbine in .45 Colt - - -

Now, that would be nifty! Much as I love the .45 ACP, you can only go so far in power with that cartridge. The .45 Colt, though, in a good, strong, rifle action, could be loaded up pretty strong, and still use the regular revolver loads for smaller game, and plinking, and, and, --- Oh, all sorts of fun stuff.

Put me down for one.

Best,
Johnny
 
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