Pump action help

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Hedley

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I'm fairly new to shotguns(own an 1100 and a Browning Gold), and would like to find one for both home protection, bust most importantly, I want one to just plink around on my friend's property.

I know I want a pump action, and a model 97 would be ideal, but it's a bit out of my price range. What I really like, other than the Sweeper's mystique, is the lack of a trigger disconnect. The idea of "Slam firing," for lack of better term(if there is a correct term, feel free to correct me), seems like a blast for plinking. Plus, I like the looks of older pump actions, and want a shotgun that I don't mind getting dinged up.

So my question is this, based on my criteria, are a model 97, an Ithaca 37, or Norinco's 97 clone my only choices? How's the Norinco's quality? I've heard it was reverse enginered from the Winchester, so would Winchester parts interchange? And can a gunsmith legally modify the disconnect assembly on any other pump action?

I don't plan on adding a pistol grip or anything tactical, I just want an older looking pump action with the lack of a trigger disconnect.
 
Ever considered a Browning BPS? I have an 870, but bought a BPS mainly because I shoot left handed and liked the looks better. I love it. It drops the empties out the bottom, and in my opinion, looks alot nicer than my 870. Don't get me wrong, 870's are good guns, but I really like my new BPS.
 
As someone who owns a buttload of disconnectorless Ithaca M37's my take on "slamfire" (in a 12ga shotgun at least) is that it's way overrated for anything other than impressing bystanders. It's basically impossible to hit your target after the first shot. It's also fairly difficult to even hang on to the gun while you're firing it.

My 2¢, FWIW.
 
After you find a gunsmith to disconnect the disconnector, who is the first person you are going to come after when you hurt yourself (or somebody else) showing off your slamfire technique? Your attorney will convince a jury that the accident was not your fault. Don't give the anti-gunners another statistic for their "I told you so" warplan.
You can't do much about the Winchester '97s and I've never shot an Ithaca 37 but, as Black Talon said, when shots count, slamfire is not a judicious use of your rounds.
I don't mean to be offensive, but I do mean to be blunt.
By the way, '97s are a blast....so to speak!
 
I have an Ithica 37.

Slamfiring is fun, but it's rather hard to hit anything. If you take an extra spit second to line yourself back up (you know, so you can actually hit your target), you might as well use the trigger conventionally.

There's also a Chinese Ithica 37 clone, but I don't know if those slamfire. The quality isn't supposed to be the greatest on them either, but if you see one for real cheap, it might be a possibility.
 
Early Model 12s

Also lack the disconnector. Not sure when they put one in, but guns made in the 20s and 30s will slam fire. Mine do. I don't think the later "trap" grade guns will. Look for a used field grade gun. But be careful. My little brother almost shot off his foot while loading my gun. Guess he should've asked permission first. If he had, I would have warned him. He did learn though.

I don't think you could get a smith to disable the disconnector. Too much liability for him. He may tell you how to do it, but I don't think he would take the work himself. I wouldn't.

You can't (legally) take the seatbelts out of your car, but if your car was made without seatbelts (antique) you don't have to have them. A good idea, but not a requirement. Asking a smith to disable a "safety device" on a gun doesn't strike me as a good idea.
 
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