when the companies admit they cannot produce enough weapons to KEEP up with demand for existing models, why are they wasting time, production capacity, to create new models that they wont be able to do more then get enough made by the end of the year to supply gun writiers for the magazine reviews?
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Sounds about right, DP.
The fact of the matter is that guns and shooting in general is a hobby. Do not get me wrong, I truly believe in and support the 2nd Amendment but, when rubber meets the road, most of us, thankfully, will never find ourselves in dire need of a firearm.
For the companies that produce firearms, the task is daunting. Market effectively a pretty durable good that is heavily regulated in much of the country to those, still active in the hobby. While my own brats buck the trend, most I see on the firing lines, in the gun shops and all have a fair amount of frosting in their hair. Makes sense as most "kids" are content to stay home on the pooter in fantasy land. Yes, including shoot-em-up games.
No doubt, we shall continue to hear about the Holy Grail of the female market and see more packaging trying to capture the Z.A. craze. This as the industry tries to remain viable economically for price point and competes with a pretty healthy used market.
The fact of the matter is that guns and shooting in general is a hobby. Do not get me wrong, I truly believe in and support the 2nd Amendment but, when rubber meets the road, most of us, thankfully, will never find ourselves in dire need of a firearm.
For the companies that produce firearms, the task is daunting. Market effectively a pretty durable good that is heavily regulated in much of the country to those, still active in the hobby. While my own brats buck the trend, most I see on the firing lines, in the gun shops and all have a fair amount of frosting in their hair. Makes sense as most "kids" are content to stay home on the pooter in fantasy land. Yes, including shoot-em-up games.
No doubt, we shall continue to hear about the Holy Grail of the female market and see more packaging trying to capture the Z.A. craze. This as the industry tries to remain viable economically for price point and competes with a pretty healthy used market.
Don't forget QC...
I'm not as concerned with quantity as quality
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I highly doubt these ammunition & shooting industry firms can absorb all this new interest & sales w/o hassles, production delays, loss or reduced materials, shipment or logistics errors etc.
Like I explained to my good friend(a non shooter & non-gun owner) guns are not like toasters or cars or TV sets.
The firearms & shooting sports industry(gear, holsters, ammunition, optics, gunsmiths, etc) can not be sped up 100mph just to meet demands.
A FFL holder/shop employee agreed with my remarks in a TFL post noting how a major gun maker screwed up 2 customer orders due to factory employee errors.
These guys & gals are working 10-16 hours a day 6-7 days a week in some places. DRT Ammunition's CEO was quoted as saying they added a 3rd shift full time at their main plant; www.drtammo.com .
That's one small firm. Just think of Glock, SIG Sauer, S&W, Colt Defense, Wilson Combat, S-A, HK USA, Beretta, Ruger, etc.
I'm not as concerned with quantity as quality
.I highly doubt these ammunition & shooting industry firms can absorb all this new interest & sales w/o hassles, production delays, loss or reduced materials, shipment or logistics errors etc.
Like I explained to my good friend(a non shooter & non-gun owner) guns are not like toasters or cars or TV sets.
The firearms & shooting sports industry(gear, holsters, ammunition, optics, gunsmiths, etc) can not be sped up 100mph just to meet demands.
A FFL holder/shop employee agreed with my remarks in a TFL post noting how a major gun maker screwed up 2 customer orders due to factory employee errors.
These guys & gals are working 10-16 hours a day 6-7 days a week in some places. DRT Ammunition's CEO was quoted as saying they added a 3rd shift full time at their main plant; www.drtammo.com .
That's one small firm. Just think of Glock, SIG Sauer, S&W, Colt Defense, Wilson Combat, S-A, HK USA, Beretta, Ruger, etc.
I hear ya, Clyde Frog!
My personal issue is that I am old enough and have been playing guns long enough to be completely underwhelmed by the modern offerings. Be they S&W's line of "Belly-Button" guns with Lawyer Locks or what passes for Colts, made in Germany by Walther (which is S&W, last I heard).
The "Newest" firearms I own are a later 92FS and a late 90's vintage P220, both of which I enjoy and am at a loss for the hate they seem to get from some in the community. Most of the time, if it is not at least 20+ yrs old, I am probably not all that interested in it.
It is just hard to get all that excited about some pistol that feels "cheaper" than the cap guns I had as a kid.
My personal issue is that I am old enough and have been playing guns long enough to be completely underwhelmed by the modern offerings. Be they S&W's line of "Belly-Button" guns with Lawyer Locks or what passes for Colts, made in Germany by Walther (which is S&W, last I heard).
The "Newest" firearms I own are a later 92FS and a late 90's vintage P220, both of which I enjoy and am at a loss for the hate they seem to get from some in the community. Most of the time, if it is not at least 20+ yrs old, I am probably not all that interested in it.
It is just hard to get all that excited about some pistol that feels "cheaper" than the cap guns I had as a kid.
Brian Pfleuger
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A company that stops R&D is a company headed for the grave.
kilimanjaro
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For the same reason the carmakers put out new models even when gasoline is $4 a gallon.
johnwilliamson062
Moderator
Even in the short term they likely can't switch their R&D resources to production with any sort of efficiency. I doubt many of the people used to working on prototypes would be too happy about going to production work for one thing.
shouldazagged
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Two words: feeding frenzy.
I've never seen anything like what's going on with buyers of both guns and ammo these days. Based apparently on the conviction that They are going to come and confiscate all our guns and shut down the manufacturers yesterday. Which is nuts. We've seen these worries before, more than once. But not this level of panic, that I can recall.
There's a town on the Ohio River between Louisville and Cincinnati called Warsaw. Before the U.S. got into World War II an old farmer in a nearby town ran into his local hardware store and demanded to buy every box of twelve gauge shotshells in the place. The owner asked him why, and he said, "I just heard on the radio that the Germans are in Warsaw, but they'll play hell takin' Carrolton!"
Some of the stuff I read on the forums reminds me of that story.
I've never seen anything like what's going on with buyers of both guns and ammo these days. Based apparently on the conviction that They are going to come and confiscate all our guns and shut down the manufacturers yesterday. Which is nuts. We've seen these worries before, more than once. But not this level of panic, that I can recall.
There's a town on the Ohio River between Louisville and Cincinnati called Warsaw. Before the U.S. got into World War II an old farmer in a nearby town ran into his local hardware store and demanded to buy every box of twelve gauge shotshells in the place. The owner asked him why, and he said, "I just heard on the radio that the Germans are in Warsaw, but they'll play hell takin' Carrolton!"
Some of the stuff I read on the forums reminds me of that story.