I have just bought a Model 17 .22LR 6in blue with walnut grips--cost US$350(in Queensland)--as new and shoots excellently.Also has two speedloaders--hadn't seen these for a .22 before. It's every bit as much fun as my Browning Medallist.The best thing is,that as a trainer it is perfect because it is a full K Frame size,and I don't have to reload for it.