"President Bush has made it easier for Terrorists to attack the US.

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Nimitz87

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according to john kerry tonight he said that because bush didnt reinstate or renew the AWB hes made it easier for terrorists to attack the USA. and that criminals in drug busts will be now toting AK47's...

and im sure we all know those are still allowed....

what do you guys think of each canidates position on the AWB? considering i havnt heard to much on each of them saying anything about it....
 
Yup, Kerry used the same old "gun show" lie again. Funny thing though, I've been to every Springfield (MA, Big-E) 'show for the past 3-5 yrs or so and haven't seen him there once.

I can't imagine there are too many drug dealers that hold class III's :rolleyes:

Congress, and every attentive American knew President Bushs' stand long before the AWB sunset.
 
Dunno about "easier" per se. More accurately would have been "no more difficult". But then what is to be expected during such a show in a "debate" between such people.
 
It's really funny, because the terrorists and drug dealers don't buy their guns legally, they import them from Mexico or some other Latin country. In Columbia you can pick up a Class III for less than a hundred dollars in the streets. Now imagine if you're a terrorist and need these by the dozens. :eek: Kerry and the Demonrat party know how to scare the americans that don't know how things work when purchasing a gun. I had to wait almost a month after I purchased my first handgun to pick it up, since my name is a very popular name amongst latins a few other hundred people have the same name I do, and a few of them had felonies so I had to wait a month for my appeal. :mad: What do you think a guy named Osama Habib would have to wait i order to get one at a gun show or a shop.
 
according to john kerry tonight he said that because bush didnt reinstate or renew the AWB hes made it easier for terrorists to attack the USA. and that criminals in drug busts will be now toting AK47's...
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Well of course. As a great leader of the Demonrat Party, John "Victor Charlie" Kerry knows that if you just make assault weapons illegal, the terrorists won't be able to use them to hurt people. Just as if one were to make terrorist attacks illegal, terrorists wouldn't be able to attack... no, wait... [Butthead voice]uh...huhuhuhuhuhuhuh[/Butthead voice]

Anybody that can make sense out of anything Demonrats say will have my eternal gratitude. Trying to figure out what goes through their tiny little monkey-minds makes my head hurt. :confused: :barf:
 
I have no sympathy for Mr. Kerry when he continues to spout such lies in a desperate attempt to gain a few points before Nov 2. He's otherwise a FAR more respectable character in my book than algore, and most certainly than billary. But he shoots himself in the foot with his anti-freedom rhetoric - guess he can't help it, being from Mass, but I will vote for his opponent (with nose tightly held).
 
He's otherwise a FAR more respectable character in my book than algore, and most certainly than billary. But he shoots himself in the foot with his anti-freedom rhetoric - guess he can't help it, being from Mass, but I will vote for his opponent (with nose tightly held).
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I don't recall algore calling American soldiers baby-killers. I don't recall algore meeting with the North Vietnamese in Paris before the war ended. I don't recall algore dooming American P.O.W.s by giving their North Vietnamese captors audio clips in which he declared them war criminals. In fact, I don't remember algore going over the head of his commander to get a Purple Heart for a boo-boo.

Kerry did all of that and more.
 
Kerry did all of that and more.
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Yep, he did - all in an attempt to SAVE LIVES by ending the war. Perhaps misguided, but for a principled reason. Everything you state was done by Kerry with a pure motive to SAVE LIVES, for better or worse, by ending the war. I just find it very difficult to not put him in a category of respect well above algore and billary, when Kerry was in the ****, getting shot at, and they weren't (I don't believe algore was ever in the **** was he?). I think on a principle vs. politics scale of 0-100 (however misguided/incorrect the principle may be), clinton was a zero (all politics), algore a 5, and Kerry a 40. All's I'm saying is I respect the man many times more than the other two mentioned (but still not a great deal). It ain't saying much at all to say someone is far more respectable than clinton.
 
I didn't go to Viet Nam, so I don't feel qualified to criticize Kerry's service.

However, what distinction between Kerry and Jane Fonda would you draw, FirstFreedom?

Back on topic, I thought it was ironic that Kerry made the remarks about terrorists at gun shows the same day that al Sadr's militiamen were turning in their weapons to Iraqi and US forces. They were paid $150 for RPG's, $50 for full-autos, and less than $50 for grenades and land mines.

If any gun show around here had those weapons for those prices, people would be sleeping at the front door two months in advance.
 
Yep, he did - all in an attempt to SAVE LIVES by ending the war
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Save lives? or further his career in a time when the war wasn't popular?
You don't try to end a war to save lives by criminalizing your BROTHERS IN ARMS! He is a scumbag and he betrayed his comrades.
 
I am sorry First Freedom, but I truly believe you missed the point.

John Kerry, for whatever reason, did in fact give aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war while still under arms of our country. That is an offence of treason.

He needs to be brought to trial for his offences and either exhonerated or more properly, . . . put in the brig for a long, long time.

By the way, yes I am qualified to say every bit of the above: 4 1/2 years active duty, US Navy: USS Hamner DD718, USS Wiltsie DD716, HEADSUPPACT SAIGON, Det. 90.11 (LongXuyen, RVN; River Patrol Boats). Total of 27 months in country or off shore, . . . during the VN war. No, I never ran back to the states after 4 months of duty, . . . No, I never called in any political favors to get myself reassigned to Washington DC, . . . and No, I never broke faith with my brothers and sisters in conflict.

Too many of my friends are on the "Wall" as a direct action of and because of John Kerry and his anti war friends. He was and still is above everything a self serving coward, an imbecilic miscreant, and a traitor.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
John Kerry, for whatever reason, did in fact give aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war while still under arms of our country. That is an offence of treason
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Well, maybe y'all are right - I honestly don't know enough about it to say for sure (I wasn't even alive) - and you certainly sound like you know a lot more than me - but what I AM saying is that, regardless of the treasoneousness of his actions, or lack thereof, it SEEMS that Mr. Kerry genuinely BELIEVED, rightly or wrongly, that what he did would save lives in the *long run*. Maybe he's guilty of treason arguably, but he STILL seems more principled than algore and clinton. I could be wrong.... In any event, aside from that topic of his post-war activities and alleged treason, the fact remains that this man put his ass on the line to serve, yes, for four months MORE than any other candidate in recent memory, and there was no guarantee he'd come home on the outside of a body bag to even enter politics. All's I'm saying.
 
This is kinda off topic, or maybe not. Anyway, what were VC's purple hearts for??? It seems to me that being injured 3 times would have put him in a bed more than on the front...it's my understanding that even small wounds kept you out of circulation for a week or more due to the paper work. I have no hard proof of that time frame just listening to vet's tell their stories (like the guy I work with that got shrapenel in his back from a load of beer hit with a mortar..a ripped beer can stuck in his back, and he was out for a week and a half). Just thinking out load and kinda curious since I never have heard what the purple hearts were actualy recieved for....
 
Everything you state was done by Kerry with a pure motive to SAVE LIVES, for better or worse, by ending the war.
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Ah yes, the great liberal way out of everything. Judge them on their motivations, not on their deeds, and never, no never, judge them on the results of their "motivations".

Where was Kerry's "pure motivation" when he was in Viet Nam? Why does he admit to having committed war crimes in Viet Nam, when there is no record of his having reported the crimes that he confessed to on national television (NBC's Meet the Press)?

He had a movie camera with him, why did he not film these atrocities he knew so much about???

In the final analysis millions of people were anihilated - an estimated 2 million in Cambodia alone - shortly after America left Viet Nam. As many as 500,000 Vietnamese boat-people are thought to have died just trying to escape Viet Nam. And we haven't even talked about the people slaughtered by the communists in Laos.

Even the inimitable Howard Dean could tell you about Laos. In 1974, while John "Victor Charlie" Kerry was yucking it up with his good friends in Viet Nam Vets Against the War, Howard Dean's brother Charlie was being shot in the back of the head by the communist Pathet Lao guerillas. I guess that since Kerry meant well, we should just chalk Charlie Dean up as another life saved. Hmmm? :barf:

I guess those lives don't count.
 
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