President Bush did at least one great thing for Texas

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He left Governor Rick Perry in charge.

OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR
R i c k P e r r y
For Immediate Release
June 17,2005

Gov. Perry Signs Bills to Protect Gun Owners’ Rights

AUSTIN – Gov. Rick Perry today signed legislation aimed at clarifying existing firearm laws, enhancing protections for law-abiding gun owners and reducing barriers for gun ownership.

“The right to keep and bear arms is a fundamental right of every law-abiding citizen of our country,” Perry said. “This legislation will clarify existing firearm laws, enhance protections for law abiding gun owners and reduce barriers for gun ownership.”


The bills Gov. Perry has signed include:


House Bill 225 (Driver) which extends the renewal period for a concealed handgun license from four to five years without an increase in renewal fee.
House Bill 322 (Hupp) which reduces all fees for a concealed handgun license for military members and veterans by 50 percent and lowers the age from 21 to 18 for members of the military or veterans to obtain a concealed handgun license.
House Bill 685 (Rose) which exempts military members and veterans from taking the range portion of the concealed handgun licensing process if they had been weapons certified in the military within the past five years prior to application for the license.
House Bill 1483 (Frost) which will expand methods by which applicants for a concealed handgun license may pay the fees to include personal check, cash, and credit card. Currently only cashiers checks and money orders are accepted.
House Bill 823 (Keel) which clarifies the current definition of “traveling” as it relates to someone carrying a firearm. Current law is ambiguous and is interpreted differently by courts and law enforcement.
House Bill 1038 (Isett) which reduces the fee for renewal of a canceled handgun permit for senior citizen by 50 percent. The current renewal fee for a senior citizen is $70 for a four-year renewal period and this bill will reduce that fee to $35 for those 60 years of age or older.

All bills become effective Sept. 1, 2005.
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Of course this does mean that I'll have to wait until Sept. 1st to apply for my Texas CHL since I'm cheap. ;)
 
You know, the best part is that he didn't have to sign them. He could have ignored them and they would have become law anyways via pocket veto. But he did sign them. :)
 
Yup the TX legislature did a good job concerning gun rights this session. Too bad the knuckleheads couldn't fix our school tax issues yet!
 
House Bill 823 (Keel) which clarifies the current definition of “traveling” as it relates to someone carrying a firearm. Current law is ambiguous and is interpreted differently by courts and law enforcement.
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That's going to be a double-edged sword. Prior to this, we could kind of roll our eyes and say "he was traveling..." when someone had a pistol with him and was going from one county to another.
 
SECTION 1. Section 46.15, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Subsection (i) to read as follows:
(i) For purposes of Subsection (b)(3), a person is presumed
to be traveling if the person is:
(1) in a private motor vehicle;
(2) not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, other
than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance
regulating traffic;
(3) not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing a
firearm;
(4) not a member of a criminal street gang, as defined
by Section 71.01; and
(5) not carrying a handgun in plain view.
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How is that worse? There's no vague "in the next county" rule of thumb. Now it's clear, a "I have a gun concealed in my car because the law says I can" law. Even if I'm just going to the 7-11 a block away, I'm in a private motor vehicle, I'm not otherwise engaged in criminal activity, I'm not otherwise prohibited by law from possessing a firearm, and I'm not a member of a criminal street gang, so I can carry a gun concealed in the vehicle.
 
Long Path, please explain.

IZ, that thread title is rather misleading. He left a vacancy which the people filled. More truckloads of illegals, and Sanchez might have beaten Perry.
 
True, if we hadn't kept him during the last election, all the blame for bad gun laws would fall on us. Likewise before, since the Lt. Governor is elected, not selected.
 
I stand CORRECTED! (Happily so.)

Friends, I have to admit that I didn't even bother to go look up the language of the new "traveling" exemption definition, because I simply assumed that this was a "the state giveth, and the state taketh away" type of situation, where the prevailing standard (crossing 3 county lines, staying overnight) was going to be signed into law, which would absolutely have been a tiny reduction of our rights because there would be no leeway for the streetcop under the law.

But this! This is actually a broad expansion of the legally-recognized right to carry. Heck, there's a lot of people who only get CHL's in Texas so that they can keep a gun with them in their car. Under this new legal definition, those folks might skip it.

I do beg your collective pardon! And am I ever tickled to need to do so! :) :D
 
But this! This is actually a broad expansion of the legally-recognized right to carry. Heck, there's a lot of people who only get CHL's in Texas so that they can keep a gun with them in their car. Under this new legal definition, those folks might skip it.
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That was actually a fear of the state number-crunchers, who lobbied against it because they feared losing a lot of money in the form of CHL fees. I'm still going to get mine, because it will be half-cost for me now thanks to HB 322 and I hate the NICS check. I also get to skip the shooting portion of the test, because the last time I didn't shoot expert with the M9, it was because I was putting holes in my LT's target for her. ;)
 
It's also worth noting that before moving up, Bush signed the TX CHL bill into law.

The only thing in these laws that concerns me is the one that lowers the age requirement in special circumstances. I'm afraid this could cost us some reciprocity states...

As far as the loss of state fees, that is evidence that the CHL program is being mishandled. It was designed to be revenue neutral -- profits were supposed to be evidence that the fees should be reduced.
 
The only thing in these laws that concerns me is the one that lowers the age requirement in special circumstances. I'm afraid this could cost us some reciprocity states...
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They checked that before they wrote it into law. I can't remember if 18 yr olds could carry or not in other states with a 21 yr old requirement (I don't believe so), but the other states all agreed to still maintain reciprocity with our CHLs.

Ahh, here is the e-mail I got from the TSRA calling for support of the bill back in April:
*HB 322 (by Rep. Hupp) Senate Sponsor: Senator Craig Estes

*Important note: It has been verified that this bill will not have an adverse affect on Texas Reciprocity Agreements with other states.

HB 322 allows a veteran or member of the United States armed forces, including the reserves or national guard, 18 years old but not yet 21 years of age, and who meets the other eligibility requirements to obtain a Texas Concealed Handgun License. If discharged, the discharge must be under honorable conditions.

This legislation also provides for a 50% fee reduction to all members or veterans of the United States Armed Forces, including members of veterans of the reserves, national guard, or state guard, for fees associated with the issuance of an original, duplicate, modified, or renewed license. If discharged, the discharge must be under honorable conditions.
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Emphasis added is mine.
 
But this! This is actually a broad expansion of the legally-recognized right to carry. Heck, there's a lot of people who only get CHL's in Texas so that they can keep a gun with them in their car. Under this new legal definition, those folks might skip it.
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All the more so because traffic stops are perhaps the most risky situations for citizens who carry illegally.

I think that some people who carry in and out of their vehicle will not renew because risk of getting caught will drop a lot.
 
Perry

Is this the same Perry who has his nose up ------- Delay de Louse, de Biggest Mouth in De House and wasted an unreasonable amount of tax money screwing around with the voting districts AND , who is running scared that Carol is going to bust his pretty face all over the place, now that Hutchinson has decided her pledge to stop after 2 drinks, ur , terms was not really binding, as she had her fingers crossed ?
Only in Texas, I used to think, until I spent 10 years next to Arkansas and Louisiana, and finally figured out all pols are worthless.
Don :barf:
 
Lets get one thing straight. Perry and the republicans didn’t waste a single dime of taxpayer money forcing the district issue. That was all the democrats fault. They were the ones that ran away rather than vote, which is their purpose. They are the ones that should be blamed for the whole boondoggle. Lots of Texas democrats are fairly conservative, but Texas voters should toss every single one of those democrats out on their hear for that appalling and cowardly behavior.

As an aside, my personal take is that Carol “one tough Grandma” Strayhorn doesn’t stand a chance. Besides, Perry is an Aggie. ;) :p
 
Perry

If Perry had done nothing, the taxpayers of Texas would have been out nothing.
I have no idea how Perry being another Aggie bad joke has anything to do with anything.
Texas has always been a Republican state, just the lying pols claimed to be Democrats.
Perry just let the theft of the freshwater fishing stamp fees go on too, we are going to find out all the thieving varmint's names and spend some serious time and money to give all of them a really hard time next election
:barf:
 
in case you can't remember, there was a time that you had to be democrat to win a house seat in houston. my grandfather, the late willis whatley, did just that. i need to get some more info from my grandmother just on who is going to be the next governor (she and willis were drinking buddies with the late bob bullock, and she still reigns terror in the capital. gov. connelly was afraid to cross her bad side.) she is still current in politics, but denies it all the time. now, personally, what are the party lines nowadays? it is too hard to tell most of the time.
 
You guys have good bass fishin' down there in TX (retorical question)? I'm considering moving to get away from my liberal state.
 
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