Preferred full size pistol, other than a 1911
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It really will depend on how much pistol you are man enough to handle and for what situation. For me it can be my .44 Auto Mag or my Uberti Walker.
Once you get accustomed to packing a substancial firearm then you can dress for the individual situation meaning if you have to wear a suit or not because in a suit one needs to wear a slimmer gun so a shoulder rig with a pair of Star Model Bs or PPKs or 1907 Savages or a pair of Ortiges......
For a Western Motief I could go with a walker an any number of 1851s or 1860s. slung in my shoulder rig.
Once you get accustomed to packing a substancial firearm then you can dress for the individual situation meaning if you have to wear a suit or not because in a suit one needs to wear a slimmer gun so a shoulder rig with a pair of Star Model Bs or PPKs or 1907 Savages or a pair of Ortiges......
For a Western Motief I could go with a walker an any number of 1851s or 1860s. slung in my shoulder rig.
P226 West German 9mm
classic P Series All Steel Pistol...it was the first pistol that sang to me and the first one that I had to have. She taught me the finer points of shooting and 23K rounds later, I still love to take her to the range.
the weight soaked up the recoil when I was learning to shoot, and the POI/POA was perfect for me as I learned the basics. Plus not knowing a different manual of arms, I thought the DA/SA was simple and made sense. Still do after the years, and I still love the Classic P series.. non railed West German made guns.
classic P Series All Steel Pistol...it was the first pistol that sang to me and the first one that I had to have. She taught me the finer points of shooting and 23K rounds later, I still love to take her to the range.
the weight soaked up the recoil when I was learning to shoot, and the POI/POA was perfect for me as I learned the basics. Plus not knowing a different manual of arms, I thought the DA/SA was simple and made sense. Still do after the years, and I still love the Classic P series.. non railed West German made guns.
JT-AR-MG42
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Assuming the OP is referring to a center-fire semi-auto
without any specific goals for it other than shooting enjoyment??
Steyr Gb or Beretta 92/M9.
Because the grip and grip angle fit me
and I shoot both pretty well as a result.
The Steyr seems louder for some reason, but is
more comfortable (all steel)for extended shooting sessions.
Going bigger than regular full size? .41 magnum Desert Eagle.
JT
without any specific goals for it other than shooting enjoyment??
Steyr Gb or Beretta 92/M9.
Because the grip and grip angle fit me
and I shoot both pretty well as a result.
The Steyr seems louder for some reason, but is
more comfortable (all steel)for extended shooting sessions.
Going bigger than regular full size? .41 magnum Desert Eagle.
JT
For me it would be a tossup between a Glock G21 or CZ97B. The Glock is almost stock but for a lighter trigger and extended mag release. It shoots pretty soft and it is as accurate as the shooter pulling the trigger.
The CZ has been worked on by the CZ custom shop. Very soft shooter but the trigger, after Angus worked on it, is about 2 lbs. That is after I had them put some pressure back into it. The gun is very accurate but the trigger is scary light and you would not want to carry this one.
The CZ has been worked on by the CZ custom shop. Very soft shooter but the trigger, after Angus worked on it, is about 2 lbs. That is after I had them put some pressure back into it. The gun is very accurate but the trigger is scary light and you would not want to carry this one.
Hmm. 1911 is my favorite but other than that here are my limited experiences
Glocks, I had a glock model 20 full size 10mm and liked it, I just couldn't shoot it worth a crap, even after about 400rds. I have fired about 10 different models of glocks, and have come to the conclusion that I don't like them. I hate their grip and ergonomics and trigger and feel and looks and everything about them, they are however really good guns, if you like em and shoot em well, give them a try. I would opt for gen 3 over gen 4
S&W M&Ps, I had an M&P40 and I liked many many things about the gun but I had to sell it. The ergonomics were great and I think to this day that it has the best feeling grip of any semi auto short of an HK P30. I loved the looks of the gun, I liked the stock sights, and the it seemed like a well built solid striker fired gun. The polymer used felt much stronger and thicker than glock polymer. However my particular gun had a HORRIBLE trigger, and I mean really really bad. After about 400 rds it never got better. The trigger was the grittiest crappiest feeling trigger I've ever felt on any gun , nerf, airsoft, paintball, pellet/bb, and firearms. Not only was the feel of the trigger really bad but it actually would cause the tip of my finger to be rubbed raw after only about 30rds. It's too bad, I really liked everything else but I didn't want to spend any extra money on trigger upgrades, and didn't want to be without a pistol sending it to S&W.
I had a ruger gp100 6" .357 and liked it (vvery front heavy) until after firing only about 100rds a buddy short stroked the trigger and locked the gun up. I believe it to be a flaw in the design. A couple minutes later I got the revolver to free up but I was afraid to shoot it double action and didn't trust it for woods carry
I have also owned a couple of military surplus pistols (cz52 and tokarev) but they really aren't worth your time especially since all of the surplus 7.62x25 has dried up. And the Romanian tokarev had terrible accuracy.
H&Ks, my brother has a vp9, which is their cheapest model and is also striker fired. I have handled it some and shot about 8rds through it. It feels really nice in the hand and has adjustable backstraps AS WELL AS swapable side grip plates, you really can make the sucker fit your hand. It feels well made but I really hate the lever style mag release at the bottom of trigger gaurd. The trigger pull is very light, but long and overall not quite as nice as the PPQ, but better than glock/M&P
The P30 has a rrrrrreally nice grip, and is hammer fired DA/SA, but I have only ever seen LEM versions (Law enforcement model) and in SA their triggers are smooth and light but very very long. I have handled USPs and found their grips too fat for me, and don't like polygonal rifling.
I came really close to buying a .40 sig sp2022 but the grip was just MUCH too fat. Like holding onto the top portion of a baseball bat (not nearly that fat, but fat)
I now own a Springfield loaded model 1911 .45 parkerized with tritium sights and a Walther ppq .40 m2
Walther PPQ, excellent striker fired gun. The grip is very ergonomic, the gun feels very well made, and has the nicest trigger of any striker fired gun I've ever shot/dry fired. I only have about 200-250rds through the .40 PPQ and I am not nearly as accurate with it as my 1911, but I am getting better and better as I shoot it more. It has qualities that I don't like common to all striker guns, and is rather low capacity for a striker double stack gun, but I really like it. More than any glock I've shot and more than any M&p I've shot.
If I had more money I would rrrreally like a cz75 in .40, a browning Hi power in .40, and a 10mm 1911. As you can tell I don't really like 9mm that much, and prefer steel DA/SA, but most striker guns are really nice and accurate and reliable
I really hate magazine disconnects and fat chunky grips (sig sp2022)
Walther has a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser, as does Springfield Armory, and I think S&W might too.
Glocks, I had a glock model 20 full size 10mm and liked it, I just couldn't shoot it worth a crap, even after about 400rds. I have fired about 10 different models of glocks, and have come to the conclusion that I don't like them. I hate their grip and ergonomics and trigger and feel and looks and everything about them, they are however really good guns, if you like em and shoot em well, give them a try. I would opt for gen 3 over gen 4
S&W M&Ps, I had an M&P40 and I liked many many things about the gun but I had to sell it. The ergonomics were great and I think to this day that it has the best feeling grip of any semi auto short of an HK P30. I loved the looks of the gun, I liked the stock sights, and the it seemed like a well built solid striker fired gun. The polymer used felt much stronger and thicker than glock polymer. However my particular gun had a HORRIBLE trigger, and I mean really really bad. After about 400 rds it never got better. The trigger was the grittiest crappiest feeling trigger I've ever felt on any gun , nerf, airsoft, paintball, pellet/bb, and firearms. Not only was the feel of the trigger really bad but it actually would cause the tip of my finger to be rubbed raw after only about 30rds. It's too bad, I really liked everything else but I didn't want to spend any extra money on trigger upgrades, and didn't want to be without a pistol sending it to S&W.
I had a ruger gp100 6" .357 and liked it (vvery front heavy) until after firing only about 100rds a buddy short stroked the trigger and locked the gun up. I believe it to be a flaw in the design. A couple minutes later I got the revolver to free up but I was afraid to shoot it double action and didn't trust it for woods carry
I have also owned a couple of military surplus pistols (cz52 and tokarev) but they really aren't worth your time especially since all of the surplus 7.62x25 has dried up. And the Romanian tokarev had terrible accuracy.
H&Ks, my brother has a vp9, which is their cheapest model and is also striker fired. I have handled it some and shot about 8rds through it. It feels really nice in the hand and has adjustable backstraps AS WELL AS swapable side grip plates, you really can make the sucker fit your hand. It feels well made but I really hate the lever style mag release at the bottom of trigger gaurd. The trigger pull is very light, but long and overall not quite as nice as the PPQ, but better than glock/M&P
The P30 has a rrrrrreally nice grip, and is hammer fired DA/SA, but I have only ever seen LEM versions (Law enforcement model) and in SA their triggers are smooth and light but very very long. I have handled USPs and found their grips too fat for me, and don't like polygonal rifling.
I came really close to buying a .40 sig sp2022 but the grip was just MUCH too fat. Like holding onto the top portion of a baseball bat (not nearly that fat, but fat)
I now own a Springfield loaded model 1911 .45 parkerized with tritium sights and a Walther ppq .40 m2
Walther PPQ, excellent striker fired gun. The grip is very ergonomic, the gun feels very well made, and has the nicest trigger of any striker fired gun I've ever shot/dry fired. I only have about 200-250rds through the .40 PPQ and I am not nearly as accurate with it as my 1911, but I am getting better and better as I shoot it more. It has qualities that I don't like common to all striker guns, and is rather low capacity for a striker double stack gun, but I really like it. More than any glock I've shot and more than any M&p I've shot.
If I had more money I would rrrreally like a cz75 in .40, a browning Hi power in .40, and a 10mm 1911. As you can tell I don't really like 9mm that much, and prefer steel DA/SA, but most striker guns are really nice and accurate and reliable
I really hate magazine disconnects and fat chunky grips (sig sp2022)
Walther has a lifetime warranty to the original purchaser, as does Springfield Armory, and I think S&W might too.
sigarms228
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I own full size pistols from SIG, HK, CZ, and Walther (sort of).
I can't pick out any one as a preferred/favorite but these are the top picks for me from my stash.
SIG P220 and HK45 for .45.
SIG P226, HK P30LS, and Wather PPQ for 9MM, though the PPQ is closer to compact size.
These days I shoot the HK P30LS and Walther PPQ the most probably because I CCW both of them too.
All have been utterly reliable and durable for me though thousands of rounds fired and very accurate in my hands. To me the fit/finish and overall quality of them all are most excellent and trigger quality from very good to exceptional. I have found the grip shape of the PPQ and P30LS allow me to to shoot them almost as accurately strong hand only as using both hands.
I can't pick out any one as a preferred/favorite but these are the top picks for me from my stash.
SIG P220 and HK45 for .45.
SIG P226, HK P30LS, and Wather PPQ for 9MM, though the PPQ is closer to compact size.
These days I shoot the HK P30LS and Walther PPQ the most probably because I CCW both of them too.
All have been utterly reliable and durable for me though thousands of rounds fired and very accurate in my hands. To me the fit/finish and overall quality of them all are most excellent and trigger quality from very good to exceptional. I have found the grip shape of the PPQ and P30LS allow me to to shoot them almost as accurately strong hand only as using both hands.
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Limnophile
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I've read that the three most cloned pistols are the Colt 1911, the Browning Hi-Power, and the CZ 75.
Deaf Smith
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Glock 17,22,31 size pistol.
And being that size, in .40 S&W or .357 Sig.
Deaf
And being that size, in .40 S&W or .357 Sig.
Deaf
chris in va
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It's a work in progress, but my 97b is still my favorite.
Hell, my other full size weapon is the Taurus 44 hunter with a 12" barrel, my two 357's with 6" barrels a fnh fnx tactical in 45 cal, my pt 92f in 9mm,and the rest do not meet your criteria, but I do carry in the summer months with shorts a Keltec pmr 30. I feel very confident carry such a light weight pistol, 19 ounces fully loaded is awesome as the 50 rds of 22 magnum in two magazines.
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jglsprings
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Browning High Power, need you ask?
This is the 40 I can't find a picture of the 9mm. I'll have to fix that.
This is the 40 I can't find a picture of the 9mm. I'll have to fix that.
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What type of trigger action? What caliber?
If 9mm for traditional double action pistols Beretta 92/M9, SIG Sauer P226, CZ75B.
For 9mm single action Browning Hi-Power (GP 35).
For striker-fired (any caliber) SIG Sauer P320 full-size. Other choices, Walther PPQ, HK VP9 (although some might call the Walther and HK compacts)
If 9mm for traditional double action pistols Beretta 92/M9, SIG Sauer P226, CZ75B.
For 9mm single action Browning Hi-Power (GP 35).
For striker-fired (any caliber) SIG Sauer P320 full-size. Other choices, Walther PPQ, HK VP9 (although some might call the Walther and HK compacts)