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pre ban HK91 $$$ crazy
- Thread starter orsogato
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Really I think it's nothing more than supply and demand. Now that they can't be imported, it drives the cost up. It isn't that good of a weapon IMHO but the same supply and demand prices can be seen with FN-FALs, AUG's, FA-MAS bullpups and every other weapon that was imported befoe the ban.
George Hill
Staff Alumnus
Ouch Gary - thanks for that painfull reminder! A HK collection from back then could earn you a nice African Safari today.
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"I like the word 'indolence.' It makes my laziness seem classy." -Bern Williams
I'm not aware of any agency which is actively procuring HK 91/93 type rifles. In the classes or seminars I've been to, most agencies show up with the AR15 or M16. A few Springfield M1As show up and Mini14s.
Acquisition of newer HKs tend to be SMGs (MP5 and the newer HK UMP) for their entry teams.
Finally, no agency can afford those pre-ban prices of $2.5k for a rifle. It makes better budgetary sense to take advantage of the LE exception to purchase the newer HK36 rifle for less than half that price.
Acquisition of newer HKs tend to be SMGs (MP5 and the newer HK UMP) for their entry teams.
Finally, no agency can afford those pre-ban prices of $2.5k for a rifle. It makes better budgetary sense to take advantage of the LE exception to purchase the newer HK36 rifle for less than half that price.
Destructo6
New member
This will make you cry. B&B Guns in N Hollywood 1985. Check the HK heavy bipod for $99 (saw one for $400 2 weeks ago). $500 for a HK91 and just a little more for the 94.
Be sure to examine the prices on the Valmets at the bottom.
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Paul Revere
New member
Ahhh Destructo6...
The good old days. Who'd a thunk we'd be bombarded with legislation that would effectively ban all assault rifles?
Orsogoto...
In a market where the supply of a particular item is "drying up", prices will continue to rise. Especially, popular quality items like the rifles made by H&K. In relative terms, 20 years from now (assuming we stagnate the gun control process) prices on these rifles could realistically be 2 to 3 times higher (if not more).
If you look at the price of an H&K in terms of your personal survivability under fire, then you'll have a completely different perspective of the current market price. They are fine rifles, field tested and proven under fire, durable as hell, and more accurate than most people are capable of. Save a few extra bucks and snatch it up before someone else does. A H&K 91A3 is worth between $2250 and $2650, assuming the condition is 98% or better.
The good old days. Who'd a thunk we'd be bombarded with legislation that would effectively ban all assault rifles?
Orsogoto...
In a market where the supply of a particular item is "drying up", prices will continue to rise. Especially, popular quality items like the rifles made by H&K. In relative terms, 20 years from now (assuming we stagnate the gun control process) prices on these rifles could realistically be 2 to 3 times higher (if not more).
If you look at the price of an H&K in terms of your personal survivability under fire, then you'll have a completely different perspective of the current market price. They are fine rifles, field tested and proven under fire, durable as hell, and more accurate than most people are capable of. Save a few extra bucks and snatch it up before someone else does. A H&K 91A3 is worth between $2250 and $2650, assuming the condition is 98% or better.
Two quick points gentlemen:
1. I has always heard that Ace's,in Washington, prices were "high".
2. If the prices make you "unhappy", don't pay them. Years ago, when Dirty Harry guns were all the rage S&W, Model 29's, dealers were charging MSRP, or more for them. Nobody actually had to pay that price however, and when customers showed resistance to those prices, they came down. The market place still works pretty much the same way.
1. I has always heard that Ace's,in Washington, prices were "high".
2. If the prices make you "unhappy", don't pay them. Years ago, when Dirty Harry guns were all the rage S&W, Model 29's, dealers were charging MSRP, or more for them. Nobody actually had to pay that price however, and when customers showed resistance to those prices, they came down. The market place still works pretty much the same way.
Interesting points all,
I understand the economics of the whole thing. Not only is the supply "drying up" The supply is set. No more pre ban guns will ever be manufactured for civilian markets. So yes if i were in to G3s that 2500 may not be a bad price.
Right now I have been content w/ "post ban" configurations of "assault" rifles. (Note none of these weapons, even the pre bans are true assault rifles b/c no selective fire capabilities)
But remember all, The Hi-Cap mag supply is set too. And if this new piece of legislative garbage goes through our illustrious federal legislature, no more will be imported.
My main point after all of this I guess is that I think all this gun control crap blows!!
I understand the economics of the whole thing. Not only is the supply "drying up" The supply is set. No more pre ban guns will ever be manufactured for civilian markets. So yes if i were in to G3s that 2500 may not be a bad price.
Right now I have been content w/ "post ban" configurations of "assault" rifles. (Note none of these weapons, even the pre bans are true assault rifles b/c no selective fire capabilities)
But remember all, The Hi-Cap mag supply is set too. And if this new piece of legislative garbage goes through our illustrious federal legislature, no more will be imported.
My main point after all of this I guess is that I think all this gun control crap blows!!
4V50 Gary,
For clarification, I was alluding to actual prices of new LEA/LEO only HK weapons. Anyone have a price list or a link to where one's at? I like being able to quantify how much the government has screwed us on this banning bull sh*t.
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For clarification, I was alluding to actual prices of new LEA/LEO only HK weapons. Anyone have a price list or a link to where one's at? I like being able to quantify how much the government has screwed us on this banning bull sh*t.
[This message has been edited by 6forsure (edited March 25, 2000).]
HKs may be had directly from HK International. They have two price lists, one for state/local govt. and one for Fed. You can guess who gets the bigger discounted price.
Try http://www.botach.com for govt. prices on Colts assualt rifles, smgs.
Try http://www.botach.com for govt. prices on Colts assualt rifles, smgs.