Potency of the 44. special round

maxinquaye

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I would like to get one of the little titanium snubbies before the 1st of Jan here in Kali, and was wondering if the 44 special was a more or less effective defense round then the .357. Recoil is not really an issue with me, so from a purely scientific/objective standpoint, which is preferable?
 
I have only one snub now, and that's a 3" .38 in Stainless. I don't think I would like to shoot a lightweight one in .357. That would be brutal!!

I also had been thinking of another snubbie, and I'm leaning toward one in .44 Special as well. Stoked with the CCI 200gr Gold Dot 'Flying Ashtray' bullets, how could one go wrong? If you get a chance, take a look at this round. It looks impressive!
 
44 spec is a very good round.Good defense round and very accurate.By all means consider it as a carry gun.I don't think you will be sorry.
 
Much like the .38spec and .357mag, ammo for the .44special from the major manufacturers is pretty tame compared to what was available in years of yore.

Current .44spec will do about what the .45acp does. One of my concealed carry guns is a .44 snubbie and I do not feel undergunned with it. 215 gr at about 950fps out of the short bbl not too shabby. If I feel like pain the cartridge can produce over 1100fps with 220gr bullet but that is gettin a bit stout for an old fat with a pocket gun.

If you want some serious .44 spec stuff, WeShoot2 can cook you up some dandy loads.

Sam...if it go bang it be cool, if it go BANG it be way cool.
 
Hello. Perhaps the following chrongraph results from a 3" bbl Taurus 441 will help:

CCI/Speer Blazer 200 gr GDHP - 829 ft/sec
Glaser "Silver" Prefrag 135 gr - 1032 ft/sec
Triton 165 gr QuikShok - 1088 ft/sec
PMC 180 gr JHP - 827 ft/sec
Handload: 180 gr Hornady XTP/9.0 gr Unique/WW case/Federal Large Pistol primer (Bullet is moly-coated.) - 1009 ft/sec.

Velocities are based on 10 shot averages.

Hope this is of use in your decision making.

Best.
 
Although I like the .44 Special, I have to admit that it has two serious shortcomings:

1) For a given cylinder size, it sacrifices capacity compared to the .38 or .357. E.g.: in the Taurus snubbies, you can have a 5-shot .44 or a 7-shot .357.

2) Factory ammo is scarce and expensive.
 
My Favorite Revolver is a Taurus .44spl. model 431 SS very accurate and has a lot of power the Gold Dot 200gr Hollowpoints are very impressive I have collected several from target area and they expanded to 1.25" and still weighed over 185grs I use these as my defense round with 8.5grs of Unique and WW primers 1025fps. As for the lack of ammo capacity,If I think I'm going to need more than 5 shots,I carry my 1911A1 only 2 extra rounds but reloads faster. And besides if you train a lot, then you won't wing the BG and the .44 will fix'em up just right :D
 
.44 spl use to suffer from a lack of quality hollowpoints. But, now Cor Bon and a few other hollowpoints have made it a pretty good defensive round. In heavy snubbies (S&W 696), the .44 spl has almost no recoil (like a .38 spl). But, in the Titanium (light guns) the recoil is pretty stout with .44 spl.
 
I'm not one to endorse unsafe loading practices, but if you happen to have a S$W 696, they can take quite a bit of powder. The cylinder walls on those things are pretty impressive.
 
I have a Taurus 445 5-shot. I bought it due to I didn't have one (a .44). It fires very well, is accurate, and is a blast to fire. Ammo is VERY hard to find and expensive (as Matt has already mentioned). That's why I have a reloader and you can get brass from Cheaper then Dirt as well as the local ranges (sometimes). I'm out of the last batch that I'd made and have to go to Idaho to pick up my reloader but if you reload or plan on it, then ammo and expense are not longer an obstacle.

USP45usp

*Same with .45LC.. if you love to shoot em, sometimes you just got to break down and get that reloader.
 
Reloading is the best way to enjoy shooting. I reload and my uncle is a Licensed Amunition manufacturer he does business at most all the gun shows in Wash,Id Oregon. So getting cheap ammo for me is not a problem. look at gun shows in your area.
 
.44 special as CCW

I love my Charter Arms Bulldog.(.44 Special) But why a Titanium? The Charter is all steel and while it weights a little more, that weight will help to reduce the recoil a little. While the .44 special isn't a brutal kicker it will be felt more in such a light weight gun as a titanium model. If you'd like to check out the Bulldog, go to:

http://www.charterfirearms.com
 
A five shot cylinder is NOT a serious shortcoming...!

Howdy,

The 44 SPL, in any guise, cannot be considered by anyone to have any shortcomings. A 5 shot cylinder isn't a hinderance in a weapon which must be both 1) concealable and 2) effective.

Since most engagements where a snubby would be employed are typically spitting distances, even hipshooting will generate hits with this type of gun. Taking the time to line up the rudimentary sights will easily generate 'minute of felon' accuracy.

The 44 Spl, with proper bullets, will cut a .44 caliber hole which is VERY effective at bleeding out a 'target', better than any 9mm, 40 S&W, or 45ACP with traditional hardball ammo. The characteristics of hollow point ammo increases the effectiveness of all ammo, so you must consider that the 44 will not loose anything against the others with this type of ammo.

By shooting at center mass on your target, you cannot go wrong with a 44 SPL. Should you need more than one shot to completely incapacitate your opponent, a double-tap is always recommended in situations such as these.

Usually, the first shot does the job, the second is just for insurance. This leaves 3 shots for any 'others' who haven't figured out that you mean business, and wish to be left alone.

Just the plain fact that you've shown that you are armed and willing to defend yourself should be deterrent against any more unpleasantness. If the snubby goes 'BANG-BANG!', you remove any doubt about it.

Good luck!
Unkel Gilbey
 
Didn't Dirty Harry use the .44 Special in his M-29 in the movie Magnum force? I thought that's what he said to the biker cops at the shooting range the night he came in and found them practicing with their .357 Pythons
 
I've been carrying the ultimate CCW revolver for about two years now. S&W M296 .44 Special. L frame Centennial style gun. Yes, it is a titanium Airweight. 18.5 ounces unloaded. I carry it with the hot CorBon load and I'm satisfied.

Would I be even happier with a Gold Dot bullet driven to the same velocities? For sure!

Gregg
 
Amazing how these threads get resurrected after 5 years!

Coupla years back, I was hunting with fellow moderator Tamara (okay, well, we were talking guns in the hunting shack while drinking coffee...), and she pulled out of her purse the ugliest revolver I'd ever seen-- an alloy and stainless Smith with a whippy slab-sided barrel and a 5-shot, .44 Special cylinder. Stamped right on the barrel was an admonition not to use loads heavier than... 180gr? I think that's right.

The more I handled it, the better I liked it. Beauty is as beauty does. That easy-carrying fugly gun would get the job done. Haven't seen one since, and have forgotten the designation. (I'm sure someone here will help me out...)
 
The more I handled it, the better I liked it. Beauty is as beauty does. That easy-carrying fugly gun would get the job done. Haven't seen one since, and have forgotten the designation. (I'm sure someone here will help me out...)

Sounds like my 296 to me. I don't know why people think the 296 is ugly but the Centennial J frames look good? It's a wonderful idea but they didn't sell and S&W quit making them. They were a great deal when they were being sold at close-out prices!

Stamped right on the barrel was an admonition not to use loads heavier than... 180gr? I think that's right.

200 grains actually. Never been a problem for me. All the loads I've considered for this gun have been 200 grain or less.

Here's mine with two Rossi 720's also in .44 Special. The 296 shipped with tiny little rubber boot grips but I replaced those with decent sized wood ones. Makes a big difference to the follow-up shots. Same speedloader works with both models.

Gregg

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