Pondering Makarov purchase

JB_KILL

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Has anyone purchased a Makarov from www.jcarmory? I’m very interested in buying, but wanted to get some feed back before doing so. This will be my fist auto pistol( I have always owned revolvers.) so I would like some advise. I have read that the Bulgarian Makarov needs a lot of cleaning when new. How hard are they to field strip? Would this be a wise purchase for my first auto-loading pistol?

Thanks,

JB
 
Go for it. Fine pistols at a reasonable price. Reliable & good shooters. Go for an East German model if at all possible.Regards.
 
The Makarovs are great pistols. As far as stripping them goes, after you do it a couple of times, you can have every part out of one in less than a minute with no tools. Cleaning them up isn't hard, you can strip them down and wash the parts with kerosine, in probably 10 minutes, and you are ready to go shooting.

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Plateshooter
 
Makarovs are great. Simple, rugged, reliable, easy to shoot, very accurate due to the fixed barrel, and reasonably powerful. Get a 9x18 Mak, not a .380. The 9x18 Makarov has more steam than the .380, it's between a .380 and a 9mm Luger in power. Maks are easy to carry due to their slimness, but they are kind of heavy for a gun that small because of the all-steel construction.

All in all, they are one of the few remaining bargains in handguns, and easily worth twice their market price. You gotta love a gun with spare mags that cost $5 each.
 
Has anyone purchased a Makarov from www.jcarmory?

I recently dealt with Greg Monte of JC Armory. My local FFL handled the transaction and everything went very smoothly. Do a search here and at www.makarov.com You'll find that he gets 100% praise. He's a man of his word. Bulgarian Maks can also be had from Dan's Sporting Goods (danssportammo@alltel.net) You can get them for $148 delivered (Priority) from Greg or for $140 delivered from Dan's (Overnight).

I’m very interested in buying, but wanted to get some feed back before doing so.

Don't hesitate. Both Dan's and JC Armory are almost out of Bulgarian Maks, when these are gone you can expect to pay more, that is, if our political betters don't decide to cut off the flow like they did with the PRC.

This will be my fist auto pistol( I have always owned revolvers.) so I would like some advise.

Great pistol as others have said. The DA trigger is a bit heavy but it's easy to get used to it. SA pull is crisp. They're very accurate.

I have read that the Bulgarian Makarov needs a lot of cleaning when new.

Yes. They're unissued military/police pistols that have been stored in heavy grease and cosmoline. Strip the pistol and mags, and leave all parts in a solven like kerosene or Hoppe's No 9 for two hourds. With a plastic brush and many rags remove all grease. Clean out bore and put together. If you don't want to do clean them yourself they can be had prepped at shows for $200. I rather save and do it myself.

How hard are they to field strip?

They're very easy. It takes a little practice to get the slide onto the frame, but after a few tries it goes on very easy. You can find detailed instructions at www.makarov.com

Would this be a wise purchase for my first auto-loading pistol?

Yes and YES. It's a very simple mechanism. I'm pathetic when it comes to mechanical things, my expertise, if you can call it that, was isolated to field stripping SIG Sauers, Glocks and such. Within minutes I had the safety off, the firing pin out and now I'm planning on taking it apart completely. If I can do it virtually anybody capable of using the Web can too. The great thing is that since they're so economical you won't mind experimenting with it. I cannot bring myself to man handling a SIG Sauer. I figure that the pistolet Makarova, like an AK, was desgined to be handled roughly and keep on ticking.

If my long winded post hasn't convinced you, consider this, Dan's sells new production non-corrosive Russian ammo for $105/1000 or $52.50/500 delivered to your door. That's $5.20 for a box of 50. What other pistol can you feed so cheaply?

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JB get one you won't regret it. I have an E. German and its fantastic. There is a guy in Kensington PA. Dans I believe is his name. Selling new unissued military Bulgarians
$149. Check it out in the Shotgun News may be worth a look. But I like my E. German
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Good luck and let us know what you get
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Happy Shooting
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JB:
The Bul. Mak I recently got from Dan's was also my first auto and it is a gem. Your issues:

Cleaning: not a big deal; I field stripped it easily and I am by no means mechancially inclined--removed grips, slide recoil, spring and sprayed it with gun scrubber. The spray removed all of the waxy preservative. I then wiped it down with a good gun oil--Breakfree-- and made sure the barrel was clean. Put 50 rounds through it 20 minutes after I cleaned it without a hickup and it was accurate.

I'd suggest going to Makarov.com and checking out their technical info on breaking the gun down. I have not gotten into a complete disassembly--removing hammer, main spring,ejector,... at this point since it seems to function fine. One point to keep in mind, these weapons were built to function in harsh enviroments where fastidious cleaning would not be possible. They are also simple--27 parts-- and strong--all steel construction.

IMHO, the gun represents an outstanding value in handguns--inexpensive, accurate, reliable and easy to maintain. I'd suggest contacting Dan's within the next week before he's out of them. If you get one I'd suggest getting the pearce rubber grips and mag loaders from Karl of Markarov.com.
 
I would agree with all the guys who have written in, yest he guns are simple to field strip and the ammo is very inexpensive. But I would like to caution you about the recoil. These pistols kick hard and since there is not much mass to absorb it, your hand does! I have a Makarov and will attest to its fantastic accuracy but my 1911 is more of a pleasure to shoot because it doesn't beat your hand up. I shot with a friend who fired both of my handguns and that was the first thing he said after putting a dozen rounds thru each. So, if you desire an inexpensive (not cheap) pistol the Mak is an excellent choice, and it is great gun to shoot. But don't plan on spending an afternoon blasting holes in paper plates, your hand won't endure it, I know from personal experience-I tried it and 430 rounds later my hand ached and was red for the next two days!
 
Get one. You won't be sorry. Cheap fun gun. Shoots where you point it. Easy to breakdown and clean. Reliable as the sunrise. Not wild about the DA trigger, but SA is ok. More accurate then pistols costing thousands more. Have fun.
 
I got an East German Mak from SOG about a week ago and I am thrilled with it. I payed only $180 and it is in great shape. That $180 included $10 for the "hand pick" fee; the East German Maks are "used," mine was made in 1961, and cost more than the Bulgies, but most believe the cost is worth it as the german maks have better workmanship. Field stripping a Mak is easy. I have gone beyond the ordinary field stripping to remove the safety and firing pin - easy. I haven't managed to extract the extractor though, but like removing the safety and firing pin removing the extractor means going beyond the usual field stripping procedure. I don't mind the recoil at all. Maybe that's because I replaced the aweful stock plastic grips with Pearce grips I got through http://www.makarov.com Most say Maks are accurate but my initial accuracy results were disappointing; I will try a few other ammo types today. Most complain about the double action trigger. I like it. On my german Mak it is very smooth and not too heavy. The single action is nice too. My only problem with the trigger is the considerable creep in both single action and double action modes. On the other hand, what do you expect for $180? Overall I am very happy with the trigger. I have only three words of caution. First, Maks are blowbacks and therefore must have rather heavy recoil springs. Racking the slide is difficult and especially so for those without a lot of upper body strength. Second, there is no firing pin block or even a firing pin spring. There is nothing to prevent the pin from rattling back and forth in its channel with its forward motion stopped only by the primer. So if you carry it chamber loaded don't drop it on its muzzle. It could discharge. Engaging the safety wouldn't help. It blocks the trigger, sear, and slide but not the firing pin. If you carry it chamber empty keep in mind it is hard to rack the slide. Finally, the sights are poor. The front sight is just too small and a little red paint doesn't help much. Still I am very very happy with my Mak. I find the recoil comfortable (although I haven't shot hundreds of rounds in one sitting), the weight and balance are excellent, with the Pearce grips it fits my hand well, and it's a rugged gun that should last well beyond my lifetime. I'm going to go shoot it now.
 
Don't let Glockdoc's warnings deter you. There is nothing unsafe about the firing pin configuration on the Mak. You'd have a hard time getting it to drop on its muzzle with enough force to ignite the primer. The eastern bloc countries have been using it for going on 50 years now with no problems. Read the posts and ask questions on http://makarov.com.
 
If your Makarov recoils hard. Replace the recoil spring. Brownells sell a spring kit with 4 different springs. I like next to the strongest. Shooting with only my trigger finger and thumb touching the gun and holding as loosely as I dared the gun still cycled perfectly, but seemed to kick a lot less under normal shooting.

Best Regards

Sam
 
Good, simple, sturdy gun.
Ammo is cheap. Ergonomics aren't bad, but you may also want to consider getting a Kel-Tec P-11. It will run you a bit more (paid $205 for mine), but it is lighter and shoots 9mm (9x19, as opposed to 9x18mm). Either way, you will likely be happy with the purchase.
 
Recoil problems go away with Pearce Grips. The gun is very accurate, 100% reliable, DA/SA difference isn't too great. Mags are $5 each. Sights are meager though and it is heavy for the caliber and capacity.

My mak stayed in the gun box with the Glock 21...I trust it that much.
 
Just got 2 from jcarmory yesterday! Greg there was easy to work with and had no problem with the FFL xfer to my dealer. I got one stripped down and cleaned last night using the exploded view and instructions on makarov.com. It took about 2 1/2 hours, a couple of rags, and equal parts of gun scrubber and CLP. The only reason it took that much time was that I was watching a hockey game, and so I spent a lot of time gawking at the tube. Took down everything except the extractor and the trigger guard spring - and things went back together easy.

This looks like a great gun (tonight the second one gets cleaned and lubed), and I can't wait to get them out to the range on Saturday. The finish has a very nice deep blueing, and the trigger pulls (double and single action) are smooth. The slide mounted safety is a little stiff, but I think it will ease up with a little work. For the price I paid (a little over $300 guns,shipping, xfer) It looks like I got 2 great guns.

In other words - Go Fer It!!!

JohnDog
 
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