Poll of indoctrinated, zombie youths?

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The brainwashing has taken hold.... zombie youths listen to their leftist parents and media:
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Monday August 21 9:30 AM ET

Poll: Teens Back Gun Regulation

By DAVID HO, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - About nine out of 10 high school students support
gun-control measures such as criminal background checks and mandatory
trigger locks, according to a survey released Monday.

The same number of students said they favored requiring a safety course
and a license to purchase a handgun, and 96 percent supported registering
the weapons when purchased so they could be traced if necessary, said
Dennis Gilbert, a sociology professor at Hamilton College in Clinton, N.Y.
who designed the survey with his students.

``American high school students have a shockingly high level of exposure
to guns and gun violence,'' Gilbert said in an interview.

The polling firm Zogby International conducted the nationwide telephone
survey during three days in June by calling 1,005 high school sophomores,
juniors and seniors.

Students in the East and South were most likely to support gun control,
followed by those in the West and Midwest, the poll found.

A quarter of the students said they or someone close to them had been
shot in a situation unrelated to military combat. The proportion that rose
to nearly half for students living in cities with populations greater than
half a million.

One junior at an urban high school in the Midwest said a close friend had
been shot dead while playing basketball, while others reported hunting
accidents and other firearm mishaps, the study said.

While four out of five students said the government should keep guns
away from criminals even if it becomes harder for everyone else to
purchase them, the same number said Americans have a constitutional
right to own firearms.

Gilbert said the students were more likely than adults to support both
increased regulation and the right to own a gun.

``Maybe in their world there's just a lot more guns around and it seems
more compelling to them,'' he said.

Nearly half the students said they thought it would be easy for someone
their age to get a gun in their neighborhood, but only 6 percent described
their schools as unsafe.

The survey also found:

-More than 80 percent of high school students have discussed gun control
in school, at home or with friends.

-Of the girls questioned, 79 percent favored stricter gun laws, compared
with 52 percent of boys. Girls were also more likely to become involved
in gun-control activities.

The Alliance for Justice, a coalition of advocacy groups perhaps best
known for monitoring federal judicial nominations, released the study as
part of a campaign against gun violence.

The poll, financed by Hamilton College's Arthur Levitt Public Affairs
Center, had an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
 
Well then, I guess that settles that. All this time we've spent in deep discussions on the subject and all we had to do was ask the children.

Let's see now....how about polling them on:

1. Do you think everyone should have a home?
2. Do you think everyone should have food?
3. Are you in favor of world peace?
4. Is global warming a good thing, or a bad thing?

This is really fun!

Regards
 
OK folks, get out the calculators...

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>About nine out of 10 high school students support gun-control measures such as criminal background checks and mandatory trigger locks[/quote]

9/10 would be real close to 90%...right?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The same number of students said they favored requiring a safety course and a license to purchase a handgun...[/quote]

Still 90%

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>...and 96 percent supported registering the weapons when purchased so they could be traced if necessary...[/quote]

WOAH! Now it's 96% (darned near unanimous!)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>While four out of five students said the government should keep guns away from criminals even if it becomes harder for everyone else to purchase them...[/quote]

Wait a minute...4/5...that's only 80% that want to keep guns away from criminals...hmmm

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>-Of the girls questioned, 79 percent favored stricter gun laws, compared with 52 percent of boys.[/quote]

OOPS!...Assuming a half-n-half split between boys and girls...let's see...79+52=131...now divide by 2 to get the average and it's...65.5% favor stricter gun laws. Where the heck did that 90% solidarity go? Wait a minute - even if it was ALL girls that's just 79%!!??

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The poll, financed by Hamilton College's Arthur Levitt Public Affairs Center, had an error margin of plus or minus 3 percentage points.[/quote]

Plus or minus 3%...are you kidding...that's laughable...

Mikey
 
Similar polls have been done before. The answer is the same.

So the usual suspects can have hissy fits here but you better realize that the majority of the country isn't going to buy the hard line Vermont carry story.

Also, the polls indicate that the majority of the kids don't want to ban handguns.

They regard registration as a way to control criminals from getting guns.

Unless, the RKBA folks have a better message than we have now, expect full registration.

Stop complaining and think of something that makes our case beside "I only will accept Vermont's laws".
 
Ok, Enoch how about this.......

In Health Classes. At the age of 12-13 which is 6th to 7th grade. I propose a Gun Safety Module. It will consist of 3 hrs of class time. (Which here in Utah would be about a week.) It will cover form, function, the nature of Gun Shot wounds, the reasons for accidential discharge. BUT WE WILL NOT PREACH ABSTINECE! Abstinence is of course, the only way not to accidently shoot yourself. But we cannot restrict the proper developement of our young children into adulthood. They should be proud of themselves and thier firearms. They should also be introduced to "alternative lifestyles" Like Shotguns and Rifles or Glocks. With a section on Glock acceptance and how it is a natural act. Not a perversion against God. <<<Shudder>>>
Ok I'm degenerating. But there is a method to my madness. Intoducing the concept of "Gun as inanimate object", not "Gun the Humanised Demon". We have lost the battle for thier parents lets not lose the Children. If it saves just one life. If little Johnny had only know about firearms and how to act around them. To STOP, Don't Touch, and tell an Adult. Anyone who doesn't see the logic in this is a extremist, who is willing to see our Children Die to support thier own thoughtless position. Gun owners are capable of normal natural lives! If they can only be accepted by society! STOP THE HATRED!!!!!!
Damn there I go again.


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Go Ugly Early.

AD HOMINEM; Helping Morons argue since 1549!!!
 
I would totally support a reasonable gun safety course in the schools plus a fair presentation of why it is important for Americans to have the RKBA. Tell them about John Lott and Kleck.

One thing the polls miss or don't point out is that these kids think that gun ownership is OK.

Both pro and anti spin dopes make it black and white and demonize each others.

What these kids are saying is that
we have the right to have guns and that criminals should be stopped from having them.

That's what they think registration is about.
To answer that point of view with black heliocopter fantasies ain't going to work.

The application of current laws, etc. might work with them.
 
Somewhere in there I heard that 25% of the children had been shot or had personal knowledge of someone who had been shot (in non military action).

Lessee here. 25% of 50 million kids equals 12 million people getting shot or a whole lot of national news coverage. Since violent crime has gone down an average of 20% nationwide while news coverage of same has gone up 720%, which do YOU think it is?

The spend seven hours in school being brainwashed and another four hours in front of TV getting brainwashed.

Rick
 
I think if you lead with the idea that.

These are the laws that exist.
(Then why don't they work?)
Because they're not enforced.
(Why aren't they enforced?)
I don't know, Go ask your Mother.

Kids are pretty smart, they just need to be nailed BEFORE someone makes thier mind up for them. Here in Utah they had one of those Touchy-Feelly "what are we going to do about guns in schools" workshops. The kids came to the conculsion that teachers and School officals need to be armed to protect the kids. And that outlawing guns at school wouldn't work. Drove the Lib's NUTS.
And people wonder why I live here.

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AD HOMINEM; Helping Morons argue since 1549!!!

[This message has been edited by Meiji_man (edited August 22, 2000).]
 
25% personally knew someone who had been shot in a non-military situation? Sheesh, I'm at least double their age and I don't know anyone, nor do I know anyone who knows anyone. When thinking that they knew someone, most kids must be thinking of the kids they saw shot at Columbine.

Statistics are great. I got one from my state rep which said that something like 72% of respondants think that guns should be licensed and registerd, and then (right after it) only 64% thought it would reduce violent crime. So that means 8% want them registered even though they think it will do nothing. If that isn't proof that the stats should be ignored, I don't know what is.
 
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