POLL: Best bolt action rifle action
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Green Republican
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Savage 10FP.
bullfrog99
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lee-enfiled, quickest bolt action in the world
SAKO!
The SAKO action is one of the most sought after and perhaps the best made on the market. I am talking about the 75, of course.
The only reason why it is not also the most popular , in my view, is because it is not made in the good ol' US of A.
If I had a custom rifle made, I would choose to have it built around a 75 action. The Rem 700 would be second.
If I were to buy a new rifle and had to choose between the SAKO and the Rem, I would opt for the former with my eyes closed.
The SAKO action is one of the most sought after and perhaps the best made on the market. I am talking about the 75, of course.
The only reason why it is not also the most popular , in my view, is because it is not made in the good ol' US of A.
If I had a custom rifle made, I would choose to have it built around a 75 action. The Rem 700 would be second.
If I were to buy a new rifle and had to choose between the SAKO and the Rem, I would opt for the former with my eyes closed.
Wild Romanian
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Poll: Best bolt action rifle action
Since your poll includes "Sportsitise an old war horse" I can only assume by your statement that you are not particularly enamored with the "98 Mauser action". The world standard by which all bolt actions are judged was and still is the "98 Mauser" and with very good reason. Just about every bolt gun on the market is a poor copy of it. The 98 is by far the most reliable both in terms of misfires and feeding reliablity. I personally have used many types of rifle actions. I have experienced problems with most of them excluding the 98 mauser. This comes from personal experience not from urban legends or hype. The 98 has by far the most reliable ignition system with its long 1/2" firing pin travel. Yes , I know that this makes for a slightly slower lock time but on the target range I have seen plenty of fantastic offhand scores made with 98 mausers. A good rifleman is well aware of how impotant follow through is to the shot being made and if there was a disadvantage to the Mausers slower lock time I have never seen it in actual use. The 98 Mauser also was purposely designed to vent of gases resulting from a case failure. Something that few other rifles have. Lose your eyesight and you will to late appreciate the safety of the 98 Mauser system.
Having said all that I do have a soft place in my heart for the Model 70 Winchester with its controlled feed and super reliable triggger system. The pre-64 weapons never had the workmanship of the commercial 98 mauser actions but the newer models being made today rival the workmanship of any of the pre-64 winchesters except the pre-war models. It sometimes makes you wonder how smart collectors really are when they can buy a new model 70 with superior workmanship for far less money than they pay for the pre-64 winchesters that have workmanship that in my humble opinoin does not match the workmanship of the latest model. I own the old models and the new model 70 winchesters and the only comment I will make is buy the one that makes you happy. W.R.
Since your poll includes "Sportsitise an old war horse" I can only assume by your statement that you are not particularly enamored with the "98 Mauser action". The world standard by which all bolt actions are judged was and still is the "98 Mauser" and with very good reason. Just about every bolt gun on the market is a poor copy of it. The 98 is by far the most reliable both in terms of misfires and feeding reliablity. I personally have used many types of rifle actions. I have experienced problems with most of them excluding the 98 mauser. This comes from personal experience not from urban legends or hype. The 98 has by far the most reliable ignition system with its long 1/2" firing pin travel. Yes , I know that this makes for a slightly slower lock time but on the target range I have seen plenty of fantastic offhand scores made with 98 mausers. A good rifleman is well aware of how impotant follow through is to the shot being made and if there was a disadvantage to the Mausers slower lock time I have never seen it in actual use. The 98 Mauser also was purposely designed to vent of gases resulting from a case failure. Something that few other rifles have. Lose your eyesight and you will to late appreciate the safety of the 98 Mauser system.
Having said all that I do have a soft place in my heart for the Model 70 Winchester with its controlled feed and super reliable triggger system. The pre-64 weapons never had the workmanship of the commercial 98 mauser actions but the newer models being made today rival the workmanship of any of the pre-64 winchesters except the pre-war models. It sometimes makes you wonder how smart collectors really are when they can buy a new model 70 with superior workmanship for far less money than they pay for the pre-64 winchesters that have workmanship that in my humble opinoin does not match the workmanship of the latest model. I own the old models and the new model 70 winchesters and the only comment I will make is buy the one that makes you happy. W.R.
rugerfreak
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You forgot the stongest action made------Weatherby -----So OTHER!!!!!
I'm going to have to try this again. Considering that I forgot both Wetherby and Savage.
And also my deer gun happens to be a sporterized Mauser rechambered in .308. I also own and Enfield and a Nagant. So I do have a big soft spot in my heart for old warhorses. That is a term of endearment not an insult.
And also my deer gun happens to be a sporterized Mauser rechambered in .308. I also own and Enfield and a Nagant. So I do have a big soft spot in my heart for old warhorses. That is a term of endearment not an insult.
George Hill
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Blazer. The question wasn't Favorite or Popular...
The Best is Blazer.
I dont have one...
*sigh* Someday...
The Best is Blazer.
I dont have one...
*sigh* Someday...
It depends what you want
The trouble is defining the best probably results in more than one choice. For a general, all-round rifle I'd have to agree on Sako 75. But it's a heavy rifle and for a lighter weight the Remington Model 7 or possibly Weatherby Ultralight would take the nod. If dangerous game were on the menu, my choice would be a Dakota in a caliber big enough to do the job.
The trouble is defining the best probably results in more than one choice. For a general, all-round rifle I'd have to agree on Sako 75. But it's a heavy rifle and for a lighter weight the Remington Model 7 or possibly Weatherby Ultralight would take the nod. If dangerous game were on the menu, my choice would be a Dakota in a caliber big enough to do the job.
Keith Rogan
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Unquestionably the best action is a pre 1941 Mauser 98. Such an action can be worked with the pinky finger it's so smooth and is strong enough to contain the pressure of any cartridge that you can stuff through it.
Nothing else even comes close.
Nothing else even comes close.
Wild Romanian
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Poll: Best bolt action rifle action
Regarding the new Sako 75: I consider the standard model 75 a very poor value for the money while the deluxe model is a different breed of cat and is a very desirable weapon. Let me explain. The standard model has a hastily done dull blue job. Contrast this to the nice blueing on the Remington BDL or Winchester model 70. The wood in the standard Sako 75 is of very poor quality. Contrast this to the very nice wood found in most of the Remington BDL's and Winchester Model 70's. The checkering on the Sako 75 standard model is probably on of the worst machine cut checkering jobs I have ever had the displeasure of observing. Winchester and Remington machine cut checkering is not perfect much certainly much better than the Sako's. Now for the most important part, accuracy. If you think that the Sako because of its tremendous price is any more accurate than the Remington 700 or Wingchester Model 70 or Savage 110 history has proven very much otherwise. I have a friend who just recently purchased a Remington Model 700 light barrel in .223 and I personally observed him shooting 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards with it. If I had not seen this with my own eyes I would never have believed that a light barreled gun would be capable of such accuracy.
Nope the Sako 75 standard cost twice as much as the other weapons mentioned and you get half as much in terms of nice blueing, beauty of wood or well done checkering.
Now for the deluxe model 75 Sako. Outstanding blueing, well done checkering that appears to be hand checkering. Knock out beautiful wood. If you want snob appeal by all means spend a few pennies more and buy the deluxe model. It is certainly a better value for the money than the standard model. If you are on a limited buget as most people are. Save your money and buy a Winchester, Remington, or Savage. They take a back seat in accuracy to no other rifle and that includes all the other high priced domestic and foreign competition. W.R.
Regarding the new Sako 75: I consider the standard model 75 a very poor value for the money while the deluxe model is a different breed of cat and is a very desirable weapon. Let me explain. The standard model has a hastily done dull blue job. Contrast this to the nice blueing on the Remington BDL or Winchester model 70. The wood in the standard Sako 75 is of very poor quality. Contrast this to the very nice wood found in most of the Remington BDL's and Winchester Model 70's. The checkering on the Sako 75 standard model is probably on of the worst machine cut checkering jobs I have ever had the displeasure of observing. Winchester and Remington machine cut checkering is not perfect much certainly much better than the Sako's. Now for the most important part, accuracy. If you think that the Sako because of its tremendous price is any more accurate than the Remington 700 or Wingchester Model 70 or Savage 110 history has proven very much otherwise. I have a friend who just recently purchased a Remington Model 700 light barrel in .223 and I personally observed him shooting 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards with it. If I had not seen this with my own eyes I would never have believed that a light barreled gun would be capable of such accuracy.
Nope the Sako 75 standard cost twice as much as the other weapons mentioned and you get half as much in terms of nice blueing, beauty of wood or well done checkering.
Now for the deluxe model 75 Sako. Outstanding blueing, well done checkering that appears to be hand checkering. Knock out beautiful wood. If you want snob appeal by all means spend a few pennies more and buy the deluxe model. It is certainly a better value for the money than the standard model. If you are on a limited buget as most people are. Save your money and buy a Winchester, Remington, or Savage. They take a back seat in accuracy to no other rifle and that includes all the other high priced domestic and foreign competition. W.R.