Police Model 85- What's in a name?

Najdorf

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Hi. I was wondering how many people chose the Taurus Police Model 85 (or were tempted to do so) in part due to the factor that "Police Model 85" sounds like something that would sound good to a jury. i.e. "and the defendant pulled out his evil...um police model..." and are you (collectively) the same people who like carrying ammo like the "F.B.I. load" or law enforcement issued ammo for a similiar reason? I must admit, all other things being equal, I prefer my defense weapon being named "police model" over being named after a poisonous snake or other unfriendly images- I just wish it came hammerless.

Also, if one fires this model (with a concealed hammer, but not hammerless) out of a pocket, how great is the danger of a failure to fire due to the exposed hammer. Obviously, the answer must lie somewhere far less than a non-concealed hammer but somewhat more than hammerless. Does anyone know of any tests of concealed hammer revolvers fired out of a pocket?
 
If you like the "Name" then you should consider...

Police Positive
Official Police
Highway Patrolman
Detective Special
Lawman
Trooper

Folk's, I'm getting old and I must have missed some. Can you help fill out the list?
 
Chief's Special
Bodyguard

others?


I have an 85 Police. I wanted a concealed hammer but got tired of waiting for the 851. I like being able to see the hammer coming back and see what it is doing.

I dont see much chance of a snag if firing from a pocket. The hammer doesnt come back that far. There would have to be loose material hanging down to get between the hammer and the transfer bar. If you are pressing out with the barrel, you are going to be pulling the pocket material tight. There is a theoretical problem, but it seems unlikely to me.
 
Like DDGator, watching the hammer come back really helps me stay on target in slow fire. Re. the name: It's not on the gun anywhere and played no part in my buying the revolver. This was my first DAO, and I was a bit skeptical about my ability with it. Ironically, of all the snubbies I've owned (Smith, Colt, & Taurus), it is the most accurate. Pretty nice trigger.
 
Jar, you're right that this question could apply to a lot of handguns. With the ones named after aggressive and deadly things, it's clearly marketed toward people who want to associate their weapon with deadliness- that's not to say that most people include it as a factor when selecting their weapon. Some names are clearly associated with things people like might to associate themselves with- C.I.A, bodyguard, Police...
and some to denote the weapon as a defensive tool instead of offensive- Protector, Personal Defense...
I was just wondering if anyone's choice was affected by these marketing strategies, and knew noone would admit to choosing to have a deadly sounding name or to be associated with a certain agency. The last option, choosing a weapon that sounds more defensive to the jury, should you ever have to use it, isn't unreasonable, so I thought some might acknowledge that it affected their decision. It doesn't matter that the name isn't on the revolver, your attorney would have many chances to say "and in fear for his life, Jar pulled out his Police Model 85..."

The name question was only a matter of curiosity to me...whether it will fail to fire in a pocket is my important question.
 
I always wondered if there really is another and opposite parallel Universe, do they have...

Police Negative
Unofficial Police
Detective General
...:D :confused:
 
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