Poice raid wrong house. What do you do?

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This has happened in my area and I have always wondered, what to do?

This may not belong here, because I would sure not want to start shooting.

But, How can you tell if the guys busting down our front door are real police or not.
And what is the best way to convey your innocence?
What happened here was a mistake in the intel.
The team got the wrong address and busted in a house of someone totally innocent.
Lawsuits, trials, and jury awards proceeded, but I can't help but think there is some really good way do quickly explain your innocence and prevent your whole family from being drug out of bed and handcuffed.
 
First rule when dealing with LEO's - COOPERATE!

They aren't busting in the door to have a friendly chat over tea and cookies! The slightest bit of resistance will likely end in a very bad, and permanent result for you.

If you are innocent, it will be found out when they take you "downtown for questioning". At that point, you have every right to take legal action against the department and the city or county (whoever employes the agency).

Scott
 
Not too long ago, I read about a case where someone had seen that in a town near them, a home invasion was covered up as a police raid... only after the BGs shot innocents did the homeowners realize they weren't really cops. Flash forward to a few weeks later, cops raided the wrong house, innocent homeowner (assuming it was the same BGs) opened firing, killing the real, good guy cops...

Bad, bad deal. :(
 
I would think in my situation... If a well trained SWAT team decided to raid my house in the middle of the night, I probably wouldn't have time to take up arms or even make it out of bed.

We're not talking small time crooks here, who might trip over a sprinkler or knock over a yard knome. Unless you have a dog or two, I'd say there is a good chance you wouldn't hear them coming until you were already face down on the floor.

I dont know... just a thought.
 
first and foremost, if I haven't commited a crime worthy of a no knock warrant being served, I can safely guess that any one entering with force is a home invading intruder and will be dealt with as such. I ain't believing anyone claiming LEO status if I am not involved in criminal activity.
If I submit and they are real LEO's and making an error, I bet I get little more than a "Sorry 'bout that..." from the dept... Little recourse for a real "mental anguish and suffering" suit.

Had to add... I do have several dogs and one will be shot dead as she will engage the threat as I roll from my bed grabbing the shot gun and bringing it to bear.
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If you're not sure that they are real cops, then retreat to a safe room and call the local police to either verify who they are or to report the unlawful invasion.
They should properly identify themselves at some point during the raid, especially if there's a mistake. :)
 
Articap, I am not wasting precious seconds during a home invasion to call 911, My wife will be reporting the home invasion as I go try to keep my family safe. Like I said, since I and my family members are upstanding law abiding folks, we have no reason to fear a LEO assault on my abode.
All I know is I have cherished 8 year old dog that needed no training nor encouragement to become quite a threat to the uninvited. If I hear a gun shot, I will send 5 rounds down range nearly instantly and retreat for the rifle.
As a law abiding citizen NO ONE should fear a home invasion by anyone wearing any attire... ESPECIALLY A BADGED UNIFORM!!! :mad:
Brent
 
Exactly.

This is why no-knock raids get innocent people killed. An informant lies to get out of trouble, an address is misread, or filed wrong. Someone dies, either a cop or an innocent homeowner.

In Ohio a couple years ago a man heard someone breaking into his house, so he grabbed his rifle. His daughter got to watch as cops shot him to death. The police were there searching for a marijuana grow-op. They didn't find one.

Sad, sad, sad.
 
Some of you guys are real entertaining, that's what you are!

If this is the "real deal" and they believe they are at the right address, you aren't going to have time to "retreat to a safe room" and if by chance you do get to your gun before they make it to your room, when they see you with your shotgun "bringing it to bear", you will be dead before you get a single shot off!

You may think you have enough training for that eventual day when you might have to deal with a BG, but these guys train for it because it is their job to take out BG's.

Of course you are a law abiding citizen who should not fear a visit from the SWAT team, but that doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Obviously they do!

I promise you that you are not smarter than them, you are not faster than them and you do not have more firepower than they have. Don't be stupid!

As my fellow Missourian Sixer said, "...there is a good chance you wouldn't hear them coming until you were already face down on the floor. "

Scott
 
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...maybe. Unless you slow down their entry. It's not that hard to fortify entry points to give you some reaction time.;)

Be they bonifide LEO or not.
 
If this is the "real deal" and they believe they are at the right address, you aren't going to have time to "retreat to a safe room" and if by chance you do get to your gun before they make it to your room, when they see you with your shotgun aimed in their direction, you will be dead before you get a single shot off!
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I assure you, will get one shot off! Maybe more...
Of course you are a law abiding citizen who should not fear a visit from the SWAT team, but that doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Obviously they do!
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There is no more excuse for a bad raid as there is for a citizen to shoot an innocent person... Actually they have less room for error as pros!
I promise you that you are not smarter than them, you are not faster than them and you do not have more firepower than they have. Don't be stupid!
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I don't claim to be... But I am not under the impression I am being raided by LEOs so i am handling this as a home invasion which it is.
As my fellow Missourian Sixer said, "...there is a good chance you wouldn't hear them coming until you were already face down on the floor. "
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Actually, as I stated before, I will be awake before the door is touched, I will be on my feet with gun in hand when the door is breeched and and firing when the main dog is shot.
And if I get shot for defending my home, my wife has the number to the best lawyers in florida to take care of the law suits for my loss of life due to negligent police work.
Brent
 
Articap, I am not wasting precious seconds during a home invasion to call 911, My wife will be reporting the home invasion as I go try to keep my family safe. Like I said, since I and my family members are upstanding law abiding folks, we have no reason to fear a LEO assault on my abode.
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The OP clearly said that he wasn't going to be shooting and he understands the potential that it was a police mistake.

This may not belong here, because I would sure not want to start shooting.

But, How can you tell if the guys busting down our front door are real police or not.
And what is the best way to convey your innocence?
What happened here was a mistake in the intel.
The team got the wrong address and busted in a house of someone totally innocent.
Lawsuits, trials, and jury awards proceeded, but I can't help but think there is some really good way do quickly explain your innocence and prevent your whole family from being drug out of bed and handcuffed.
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I contend that there's nothing wrong with trying to retreat in order to verify who they are and/or to report the home invasion to the authorities. Anyone who wants to take a chance and try to commit a capital felony of shooting an officer is free to make that choice however ill advised.
Especially if someone knows that they're the cops, then shooting isn't an option for the law abiding citizen no matter how outraged they may feel about their dog being shot. :rolleyes:

All I know is I have cherished 8 year old dog that needed no training nor encouragement to become quite a threat to the uninvited.
If I hear a gun shot, I will send 5 rounds down range nearly instantly and retreat for the rifle.
As a law abiding citizen NO ONE should fear a home invasion by anyone wearing any attire... ESPECIALLY A BADGED UNIFORM!!!
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I promise you that you are not smarter than them, you are not faster than them and you do not have more firepower than they have. Don't be stupid!
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I sincerely hope you are not an LE officer, and if you are, I sincerely hope you do not actually subscribe to what you wrote. If you actually live by your assumption, you might be surprised at the amount of intelligence, skill, and firepower that exists in the "general population", an underestimation that could be dangerous.
 
I saw a regional SWAT team in action in my neighborhood against a would be "sniper" who took a random shot out of his window into a neighboring window and then shot up his own apartment.
The ordeal lasted 6-8 hours, the law tossed in grenades, had the place surrounded, had snipers with .308's, they all had bulletproof vests [most w/helmets] and they brought in a heavily armored vehicle.
The kook eventually came out with his hands up. End of story. ;)
 
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There are lots of us that go to work knowing that there is some hazard waiting that could cost us or lives. All it takes is one mistake and *POW* you are dead. The mistake could be getting a boom into power lines, the mistake could be letting the people in the crack house know that you are coming.

We take precautions to not get killed, like marking where the buried gas lines are or double checking the address of that crack house.

If someone is storming into your house shouting "Police!" you have few options. How you tell if those folks are the police, I don't know.

I do know that the cops in my town did a no-knock on a guy's house when they were looking for his neighbor from down the road. The neighbor wasn't home so they thought they would check around... But that is a story for another day.
 
If you are the victim of a wrong address police raid, you can choose 'Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death', or you can choose to be a serf like the rest of us, begging permission to request our rights. If you hurt a cop at all, you'll be the next Ronnie White (search Ronnie White, Maryland, suicide if you don't know his story).
 
Some of you guys are real entertaining, that's what you are!

If this is the "real deal" and they believe they are at the right address, you aren't going to have time to "retreat to a safe room" and if by chance you do get to your gun before they make it to your room, when they see you with your shotgun "bringing it to bear", you will be dead before you get a single shot off!
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:) Just cause you think someone can get into your house that fast, doesn't mean everyone else has left themselves equally as vulnerable.

I'm not saying someone couldn't get into my house if they tried. I'm just saying it would take them signifigantly longer than they thought it was going to.
 
I'm not saying someone couldn't get into my house if they tried. I'm just saying it would take them signifigantly longer than they thought it was going to.
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Amen on that. My house is quickly getting there as we do the remodeling :D
 
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