Please stop with any absolutisms when it comes to defensive power.

[rock_jock]

I can settle this issue once and for all. Unless you are testifying to a personal experience with regard to the stopping power of a particular load/caliber, etc., OR you can produce studies with a high degree of reproducibility (which is the standard of any scientific theory and which in the case of personal defense is almost impossible since each situation is different - i.e., no two (much less multiple) gunshot victims are shot in the same place, at the same angle, with the same gun, the same caliber, and the same load), save your rhetoric. Even in the latter case, this still qualifies as anectodal and doesn't prove anything. As much as I enjoy a good debate, 99% of what I read would never pass the test of scientific scrutiny and therefore is only slightly better than pure speculation. Its still fun, but your absolute certainties don't mean much in the realm of reality.

 

[Billy Dale]

Why bother to post what everyone here already knows? Cooper wrote about a man whose skull resides in the Harvard medical museum. This guy had a 1" steel rod driven through his brain by an explosion. He pulled it out, walked to an aid station (construction site,) and lived a normal life for 2 weeks, before dying of an infection. Saying that something is the best, as based upon animal tests, is a far cry from saying that it is infallible.

 

[Shadow of Everest]

Beat me to it. Each case must stand alone. .38 no good? Well Oswald went down pretty fast didn't he. .22? Well remember the Secret Service agent shot with Reagan? Straight to the sidewalk. .45? A Boston PD Deputy Superintendant takes one in the chest and walks out of the building and survives. 9mm jhp? SAS operative being followed in NIreland pulls over and drops 3 attackers with his Browning. Ohio State Police? Point blank encounter with skinheads in van at traffic stop...miss with whatever they had. Sick of it! Keeps "gunwriters" employed is about it.