please help me decide, .22lr "training" rifle.

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Kimio

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So after doing some fairly extensive research, I've narrowed down my options to two different models, plus another wild card that I have not had the chance to read too much about just yet.

The purpose of this rifle is to provide a solid platform for practicing basic trigger discipline as well as marksmanship for both myself and new shooters. Ideally, this is a rifle that I will have with me at all times, every time I go to the range, this rifle will come with me. It must be kid friendly, since I intend to offer the lending of this rifle to any new Comer I see at the range (if they are open to it of course), especially if the one who is there with a child or what have you lacks an more reasonable firearm to start said new/young shooter on.

1. Ruger American Rim fire .22LR: the most appealing features of this rifle for me was the use of the the 10/22 magazines (a proven design) and the ability to swap out butt pads to increase/decrease LOP, but I'm a little worried about the over all durability of the polymer stock itself, as well as how well it can handle abuse.

2. CZ 455 Trainer: I was fortunate enough to find one of these at a local shop, and the rifle just felt solid, I enjoyed the weight of the rifle, but am a bit skeptical if this would be suitable for a young child, given its LOP (fits my 5'3" frame just fine though) Magazine availability is also something I'm concerned about.

Savage Mk II F: This one caught my eye, but I've not read quite as much about it, so I'm not sure what to make of it yet. The few reviews I have read appear to be glowing thus far. I've never handled this rifle unlike the other two, but it does look l8ke a promising candidate.

Any feed back would be appreciated.
 
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Go easy on yourself.
Any of them will do just fine.
Just put a picture of each on the wall, close your eyes, spin around once, and throw a dart.
 
They will all fit the bill. I would, though, for discipline purposes, stay away from any semi automatics, especially for a kid. If the CZ is a single shot (no magazine) even better.
 
All of them are magazine fed, bolt action .22lr rifles. I agree with yoy with the avoiding semi autos.

The plan is to only load 1 round at a time for new shooters. This will hopefully force them to slow down and take their time with their shots.
 
I learned on an old Remington 22 my dad had lying around. Turns out a 22 really can kill just about anything if you hit the right spot
 
I own two of those rifles,,,

I own two of those rifles,,,
Well very close to two of them.

I own a CZ-452 Trainer,,,
It's an excellent rifle but might be too long for small kids.

This is the rifle that will shoot MOA at 100 yards

The Savage Mk-II F is their entry level rifle,,,
It's the one with a polymer stock,,,
It does not have the Acu Trigger.

I got mine at Wal Mart last year for a mere $147.00,,,
I think that was the price I paid for it,,,
I know it was under $150.00.

There is nothing wrong with this rifle,,,
It shot to point of aim at 25 yards right out of the box.
I've been hitting clay pigeons at 100 yards (using a rest) with no problems.

It's not a CZ in looks though,,,
And it's not as precise or as smooth as the CZ,,,
But it's a perfectly okay starter rifle for the budget minded.

Just my thoughts,,,

Aarond

Okay, I need to edit this.

There are two Mk II F models,,,
There is the one sold at Wal Mart with no Acu Trigger,,,
Then there is the one on Savage website sold with Acu Trigger.

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I have to admit, I'm a little biased with CZ since I own a CZ75 Compact (positively love this gun), would ya'll say the quality is up to the same standard as their handguns?
 
I have a CZ452 Varmint 22LR That I use for trigger time in the cold months indoors, I'm a Benchrest shooter 308 cal. outdoors in the warmer months. The CZ is built like a high power bolt action, thats why I went with the CZ.
 
I have two CZ 452's. One shoots like a dream and has the $.60 trigger spring that brings pull down to 10 oz. The other has always been a problem for me which was finally solved about three weeks ago with the addition of a second action screw at the rear tang, full bedding up the entire channel and pillaring both action screws. Barrel cut down to legal minimum for other reasons. Now shoots 9/10 shots in or on the X ring at 50 yards on the NRA target.

All things considered, the CZ is worse than an Anschutz 64, equal to a Kimber and way above Marlin, Savage, Henry, Ruger in .22lr
 
Fotheringhill, may I ask if the lemon rifle you got may be the exception or is the quality a hit or miss issue with the CZ?

I've never heard of an Anschutz before, so I can't comment on the quality and accuracy of that rifle.
 
I have a Cz and several Savages. All shoot well but, the Cz is a lot nicer looking, a lot better action, smoother trigger, and more accurate:D. Each is a quality rifle in its own way, fun to shoot, and easy to break down for cleaning. Going to the range for some target shooting, I will take the Cz everytime. If I am going out to a friends pecan orchard to thin out the squirrel population for him I take the Cz. If I am going out to one of the river bottoms that looks like a tropical rainforest to go squirrel/rabbit hunting, I will grab one of the Savages. :rolleyes:
Just the observations and opinions of a grey haired, over 50, used to be ;)
 
"...must be kid friendly..." Pretty much requires a 'kid' sized stock. Hard to beat a Savage for accuracy at the price asked.
"...never heard of an Anschutz..." Where are you? Geez. Anschutz are very well known target rifles. Mostly high end(over a grand), but not all.
"...under $30 there is..." A fat old Canadian who will tell you to load just one into the mag. Not doing it for $20 though. I have some standards.
 
Kimio; An Anschutz is a $1K-$3k 22LR Olympic-grade target rifle. Currently the CMP stores have the 1903 model for $1500+

Well...Olympic grade may be a stretch, but they're high quality target rifles.
 
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