Please help date S@W M19

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I have recently acquired a really nice nickle 2.5" model 19.
really great shooting gun I am going to ccw this one. The gun says Rev. 4 on the crane with a pin barrel and recessed cyclinders.

The gun is not A BP gun. It has Smith and Wesson marking
Which say Springfield Ma. I am hoping some one can date this for me. The gun is as nib wasnt fired much at all. Has aftermarket Harriet stocks on it , nice rig.
 
You've got to give us the serial number, or else you're going to get a WIDE date range. Like 40 some years.

Replace the last 2 or 3 digits with Xs...
 
That would be a BP gun.
The guns have been manufactured in Springfield Mass. through several ownership changes. And the name Smith & Wesson has traveled with the plant ownership changes.

Still a nice gun, would always be welcomed by my herd.

Sam
 
I certaintly thank everone for the information. I do have a question to ask. I was under the impression that the BP guns were so marked on the sideplate as BP.

Do I understand that this is not the case? that many guns of BP manufacture for BP were not so Marked? This is not a retorical question just an informational request.
 
IF...
by BP you are referring to Bangor Punta; no, no special markings on the guns during their ownership.

Sam
 
No, Bangor Punta guns were not marked on the gun.

I believe that some of the boxes were marked "S&W, a Bangor Punta Company," or something like that.
 
BP

I have owned two guns both M29s marked BP on the side plates perhaps I should have held on to them as they must be a special run.

Once again thank you.:)
 
Just went over some 29s. None with BP on em anywhere tho their boxes have "A Bangor Punta Company" under "Smith & Wesson" on the flap.
The boxes for my Lear Siegler guns are similarly marked.

Wonder if the "BP" marking was for a police dept ??

Sam
 
Bangor Punta Stamped on gun

Bangor Punta was stamped into the round circle on the right hand side plates and perhaps elsewhere I am not sure.

Now I find out after all these years the guns may be worth lots of money...just my luck.
 
I just checked both of the Bangor Punta-era Model 29s I have in the house at the moment. No BP marking.

Nor is that mark on any of my other BP-era guns.

If Nahaus & Supica mention it in their book, I'm not finding it.

I'll e-mail Rick Nahaus in the morning and see if he knows anything about it.
 
Say what?

BP? Black powder? Naw, S&Ws have been proofed for smokeless for a hundred years. I think the first was - - - - -

Huh? Bangor Punta?? never mind.



;)
Johnny
 
Anyone who is saying that BP was stamped on any guns needs to post a photo of this or consider the possibility that they are remembering incorrectly. I have never seen such a marking on any S&W that I have owned or handled. On the boxes, yes. But not on the guns.
 
That is what it said

I am saying it because I had one. . Why would I be untruthful about something like That?

My mind is not going... I am a working engineer and I somehow manage to make a a day.

In very small letters small enought that I had to use a mag. glass(perhaps my eyes) but that is what it said. I dont care if it was the only gun smith and wesson ever made out of ten million so marked that is what it said.

The gun was in a wooden presentation case and was purchased in Patterson La in the late 70s early 80s somewhere, in that time frame. It was nickle. I paid over 500 dollars ( a lot of money back then for the gun). A Model 29.:rolleyes:
 
"I am a working engineer and I somehow manage to make a a day."

So's my Father.

Doesn't prove a thing! :D

Don't take personally what Pig is saying. You're just saying something that none of us have ever encounted before (and I've examined, handled, and shot literally thousands of S&W revolvers of all kinds and types), nor is it mentioned by Supica & Nahaus, who wrote the most recent book on S&W handguns.

It's not that we're doubting you, it's the simple fact that no precedence exists for it of which we know.
 
Response

I do not intent to respond to this post again, But I will ask you why do you think I am mad, because I dont happen to say what you wish to hear? does that make me mad? I think not!

With respect to my being an engineer, what that means is I have the ability to read and write and understand things like Bangor Punta-on the side of a gun.

Can not Pig speak for himself? how do you know what pig ment? you tell fortunes or something? You dont even need a computer just use thought balls hun!

Anyway guys I am outta here , I have gotten some real usefull info and I thank you. No matter how many years one has been shooting something is alsways to be learned. Shot my first one in 1954 and been enjoying it ever since
 
"I dont happen to say what you wish to hear? does that make me mad? I think not!"

Have any of us accused you of being mad? I don't think so.

The :D after my engineer comment was meant to be a joke. I'm sorry if it offended you. I come from a long line of engineers -- I'm the first in 4 generations of my Father's line NOT to be an engineer, civil or mechanical.

As I said in my last response:

"You're just saying something that none of us have ever encounted before (and I've examined, handled, and shot literally thousands of S&W revolvers of all kinds and types), nor is it mentioned by Supica & Nahaus, who wrote the most recent book on S&W handguns."

Let me put this in engineering terms.

If I came to you and said "I've come up with a revolutionary new engineering principle that will allow me to support the weight of an ocean liner with a 6" long piece of cotton thread, 2 popscicle sticks, and 100 dixie cups," you'd more than likely reserve judgment until AFTER you saw some empirical data, and not take just my word for it.

This isn't an insult to your manhood or your professional or cognative abilities, and I'm truly sorry that you see it as such.

But quite frankly, until I see an indication otherwise, I'm going to treat this with a little skepticism simply because you are the first person who has ever reported seeing a gun so marked.

I haven't ruled out the possibility, and I won't rule out the possibility, but knowing what I do about S&W revolvers and the company's marking practices over the years, I'm going to reserve judgment and remain a bit skeptical until I see some empirical proof.

As for Pig being able to speak for himself, yes, I'm certain that he is. He's proven it many times, and when he stops back in I'm sure he'll do so.

As for what Pig meant, I think his message is plain. He's skeptical, too.
 
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