Then to simplify things the Glock is a trigger cocking mechanism then somewhat double action where the XD is a single action striker if you can use those modes to describe the operation of the two pistols?
The XD would seem to be simpler?
Ok, obviously neither is inherently unsafe although I have heard of Glock leg but that's probably user neglect in most cases.Technically Glock, and most all striker fired guns are DAO. But the striker is partially cocked. Pulling the trigger finishes pulling the striker the rest of the way back then release it. But in reality, it feels like a 5-6 lb SA trigger pull.
The XD has the striker fully cocked and is true SA. Pulling the trigger simply releases the striker. But in reality, both trigger pulls feel about the same to the users.
The primary reason you almost never see an XD in LE use is because of the SA trigger. Most LE agencies have regulations stating their guns have to be DA, or DAO. While the end result is pretty much the same, Glocks meet the criteria and XD does not.
SOME agencies do allow SA pistols, primarily for those that want to carry a 1911. But those are uncommon and even most of those only allow those officers with enhanced training such as being on the SWAT team to carry SA.
BTW, virtually all other striker fired guns are more similar to Glock in order to neet LE regulations.
Nah…the Glock is still partially cocked and unlocked. It’s dangerous. It’s an example of how “marketing “ messages play into your liability. USA is/was the best marketing ever.jj45 said:The Glock, being DA, needs no grip safety but relies on the trigger.
That's an interesting post Nathan! But a little difficult to comprehend...Nah…the Glock is still partially cocked and unlocked. It’s dangerous. It’s an example of how “marketing “ messages play into your liability. USA is/was the best marketing ever.
ok, would you consider this. I'll use a CZ 82 as an example. It has a thumb safety but can only be activated if the weapon is cocked (cocked and locked) Since there is no grip safety I don't carry it that way. Because there is always the possibility it will somehow snick offFirst, that was said a bit tongue in cheek.
The Glock striker is partially cocked….as in the trigger bar is holding the trigger back some. Also, the trigger bar spring is pulling it towards firing always. So, it is biased to fire.
Then when a finger is left in, jacket snags, trigger is touched under stress, there are nd’s with Glocks.
Glock has marketed the gun as being built with the Ultra Safe Action, with 3 safeties. Glock has really pushed the mantra that a safe shooter and a safe holster are the only possible failure points with the USA.
They have completely missed the study of human performance….humans have a super high error rate….and the need for redundancy in life altering systems is real.
….and this is where the marketing steps in. Glock promotes the blaming of their users for design flaws. When people shoot themselves with a Glock, it is always the shooter’s fault because the gun offers no safety redundancy.
A 1911, has 2 redundancies, an XD has 1 redundancy, a shield plus w/ safety has 1 redundancy…..a Glock has zero redundancy. Imagine if life support systems had zero redundancy? Ah sorry, brown out…..he died.