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airburst

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I am just very new to this group sort of thing [as well as from ENGLAND]. So please bear with me.
I need to find out what people are going on about the so-called New World Order [NWO] and about so-called US concentration camps for socially and politically undesirable elements of US society. What substantial evidence is there to support the existance of such facilities? and where do people get such information that can be proven in a court, about the NWO?
I apologies to those readers that think that I am off tack for this group, if so, then please advise me about this and re-direct me to another more suitable area or discussion group.
 
The answer is simple: it depends on who you're talking to. :)

When I, and I think most members here, discuss things like concentration camps where gun owners, etc. are rounded up, chances are we're discussing the future. Some of us are pretty pessimistic. As far as I know there is no evidence of anything like that going on in the U.S. in the present day. However, I'm with those who say it isn't as impossible as most people think. It's happened before, even here, and can easily happen again.

The term "New World Order" is another one. It's a buzzword for anything to do with Socialism or oppressive government. George Bush used it a few years back. Originally conspiracy theorists used it to talk about the U.N. taking over sovereign nations by force and enforcing their particular brand of Socialism/Fascism. Nowadays it's just as likely to be used to talk about ANY encroachment by the U.N. or any other "globalist" person or organization--such as the U.N.'s recent "suggestion" that the U.S. government should require licenses for people to publish. There are lots of other meanings, too. That's why I personally don't use the term much. Frankly, it means a million things to a million different people. I'm afraid you're stuck with context. Welcome aboard.
 
Go check out an article at Free Republic that will give you a little info on the "concentration camp" thing. Pretty spooky stuff, although it's references to Y2K are a little dated. Free Republic also has a forum where a lot of this stuff is discussed. Just bear in mind that you mustn't believe EVERYTHING you hear about it, but there is a lot more fact concerning some of this stuff than I'd like. Sweet dreams.
-John
 
RE: Concentration camps
About 1.5 yrs ago a member posted a URL that purported to show "secret" concentration camps, with photos and map directions, etc.

Just so happened that 2 of these "camps" were
LA County Honor Farms (minimum security detention centers of non-violent offenders, contempt of court offenders, etc)... both well-known and one abutting I-5 (major California highway) for the last 40 yrs.

Take it with a grain of salt, lots ;)

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Administration) maintains some "concentration camps" where, among other folks, Cuban refugees, Haitian refugees, Vietnamese boat people and sometimes U.S. Citizens have been detained, usually for short periods of time. I've heard that we have increased the number of these camps in recent years through FEMA "Black Budget" programs (can't confirm).

FEMA has one of the largest Black Budgets in the U.S. (have no idea why they need to be so secretive). This fact and the existence of these camps has led to the popular rumors about concentration camps waiting to be filled with gun owners, freedom lovers, militia members, etc.

From where I sit, it's not completely out of the question. I wouldn't necessarily put anything past the Gubmint these days. I don't know what FEMA has to keep secret. Seems like they would be a very open agency, but they are not.

[This message has been edited by Jack 99 (edited March 03, 2000).]
 
This has been an interesting read and general scan through. I will write down these URLs for such websites, but also learn that I should take a small 5,000 ft pillar of salt with them as well. We in the UK of GB have got something similar, but have not used such legislation since the mid-70s to contain our Northern Ireland terrorist situation. In some ways, if you didn't have these facilities then some would find fault with Uncle Sam for NOT doing so, but also if you knew that a plane load of potential Ebola carriers where arriving, would you feel more comfortable knowing the FEMA gotten something ready under wraps for such an occasion?
Incidentally, which country actually invented the concentration camp ? - the clue lay within this author's nationality, Yep, we did during the Boer War in South Africa, to keep those revolting Boers under containment, but we not proud of it, and eventually some forty or so years later, what another regime hijacked it for.
 
Airburst you wouldn't happen to go by the name Radio on some of the other RKBA discussion forums would you?


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Gunslinger

We live in a time in which attitudes and deeds once respected as courageous and honorable are now scorned as being antiquated and subversive.
 
Dear Gunslinger,

To answer your question, I was actively involved with Brit community based CD/CP planning for over a decade. This was to cover the preparation for WW III, the use of airburst is where less than twenty per cent [one fifth] of the device fireball touches the Earth's surface, and Groundburst [being also used by me on other occasions] is naturally where more than this figure above, fireball touches the Earth's surface.
I think that I might have heard the "handle" of Radio before now, but assure you that I am also 100 per cent Limey in origin.
I hope that this answers your question clearly.
 
airburst, welcome to TFL.

Personally, I think all of these reports are exaggerations at best, and usually just plain, let us say, 'out there'. But, there is honest concern here in the States about some of our government's activities.

Regarding the NWO, I feel somewhat the same. However, there are well-documented cases where international efforts are well under way to limit or eliminate the right to keep and bear arms here in the U.S. For example, I find http://www.iansa.org to be rather interesting in many ways.

Regards from AZ
 
Dear Jeff Thomas,

Many thanks for this info, seeing that the IANSA is in Lodon that I might visit them in person, to see what they are like and to establish whether they could be something connected to some Master NWO plan organisation. If they thrown me out, then the publicity could be rather counter-productive when I could cite that their security guards assaulted me and bring a civil action against them. It would be interesting to see what reaction this would bring then they would either cover it up, or go with it! Incidentally did you know that the UK of GB has the highest level of CCTV cameras in world, more than China or Russia. That is one camera per thirty people in our national population!
 
*One* reason given for the secrecy at FEMA is the plans to protect various resouces (human, physical, etc.) in time of attack (of any kind).

No use telling the enemy, "Here's where and how we will hide/protect the following:..."
 
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