Planning to buy a .357 magnum...

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HI guys! i currently own a .45 cal series 80, mark IV pistol with modifications and i plan to buy a new .357 magnum. I dont know much about revolvers except that it is double action, no safety's, only 6-8 shots (not sure). can anyone, give me an advice as to what brand i should get? is the Taurus .357 a good gun? which is more efficient, the short barrel or the long barrel? what loads should i use? is it hard to use revolver with this caliber which delivers total Ka-boom? how powerful is the .357 magnum? what are the advantages and disadvantages of owning one? I sure do have a lot of "ignorant" questions but i hope you can forgive me and please do give me an advice.
I plan to purchase a Taurus .357 magnum with a 6 inch barrel. Is it a good gun?
 
What do you want to gun for?

Hunting: A 6-inch barrell is recommended, 8 inch is better.

Self Defense: 3 or 4 inches is usual.

My favorite low priced, 357 is the Ruger, I own a Security Six, 4 inch, I like the 145gr Silvertip for most purposes.

Geoff Timm
Who wouldn't feel naked with his Security Six Heavy Barrel, hunting or defense. :cool:
 
IMO a revolver should be part of a handgun collection. Personally, I like S&W revolvers. The 686 model (38/357) would be a good choice. I would compare the top three: S&W, Ruger and Taurus. Which feels best in YOUR hand? Cock them, point them, and dry fire. Each has it's own feel. Good luck. Oh, my revolver is the 686. :)
 
Taurus....

Is a good gun. I have a 357 2in snub with over 500 rounds. It's perfect, especially for the price. I'm not saying get a snub, I'm just saying it's a good revolver
 
I've got a Ruger Service Six .357 Mag 4 inch barrel in blue that i love. Built in 1977. It's a tank. I shot 250 rounds of .38 special today with it. Fun gun.
 
Taurus? I've heard good and bad, and I have no direct experience with them, so I'll defer that to others who know better. I've got a 4" S&W 686 and I am so impressed with it that I just can't recomend them enough. It is (with 1 exception) about the best "Does It All" gun out there, except I think that it is too big and heavy for concealed carry. I got mine used for $300, and if it were me I'd go that route rather than buying a new Taurus. Also check out the Ruger GP-100's, they are good as well. As for barrel length, IMHO the 6" and 8" barrels are more for long range target and hunting use. 4" is pretty much universal, good for just about everything except concealment. 3" is "handier" and easier to conceal, but you are losing velocity at that length and the sight radius suffers.

For total Ka-Boom -- well, usually we try to avoid Ka-Booms! :eek: Never fear, if you go with an L or N frame S&W (686 is an L) you probably won't have to worry about that, they are mighty strong. Debatably even stronger are the Ruger GP-100's, again you won't really have to worry about it if you want to run full-blast magnum ammo.

Is it hard to shoot those full blaster magnum loads? Not really in a medium/heavy frame service type revolver like mine. In a snubby that's another thing altogether.

How powerful is the .357 mag? Good question. Answer: It is good enough to hunt deer sized game with no real problems. It is good enough for field carry here in the South East, the only thing you might run up against here that the .357 wouldn't be completely adequate against is Black Bear, where the .357 is marginal. Brown Bears/Grizzlies? Nope, think again, you better have something better for those. As for self defense against varmits of the 2 legged variety, the .357 is arguably one of the best rounds there is, no matter how you measure effectiveness.

Advantages/Disadvantages of owning a .357? Let's start with the disadvantages. First, assuming that you have a quality revolver, there really aren't any disadvantages. Ok, so 9mm practice ammo is cheaper, as is .22lr. True, but you can get .38 spl ammo for pretty cheap as well. And that brings up one of the biggest advantages to having a .357 mag, and that is that .357 mags will also shoot .38 spl ammo just fine. And there's a whole gamut of ammo possibilities that opens up. It means that you can practice with very light loads that are very accurate and quite cheap to boot. There are also heavier self defense loadings in .38 spl that have less recoil, noise and flash than full power .357 mags, and are still effective -- I keep mine loaded with such ammo for home defense (Speer .38spl +P 125 gr Gold Dots). An advantage that the .357 mag revolver (or .38 spl for that matter) has in the home defense realm is the inherent reliability of the firearm. Ok, so you only have 6 (or 5 or 7 or 8, depending on what you get) rounds of ammo in the gun. Ah, but those are 6 reliable rounds, you aren't going to have any feeding failures or failures to eject, and if you have a misfire (BTW, never happened to me with my revolver), you just pull the trigger again. This comes at the expense of fast reloads, but the chances of needing to do a hot reload in most home defense scenarios is pretty remote.
 
Stainless steel

Whatever you get, pay a little more and get Stainless STeel.
It's more than worth it when it comes time to clean it.
 
You are getting some good advice above. I can add that I have 2 .357 Magnums, a Dan Wesson and a Taurus model 605 (2 inch snubby). If money is an issue for you, I can recommend the Taurus. Some people poo-poo the Taurus brand, but if you just shoot .38 specials in it (a .357 can also shoot the less-powerful but still effective .38 special round), the Taurus should last a long time with no problems. For home defense, I'd recommend a 4" barrel, but a 6" is OK, too. Visit taurususa.com to see the many, many offerings in this caliber.
 
I don't think you can beat a good quality 357 Magnum with a 4-6 1/2" barrel for all-around versatility. I tilt toward the longer barrels, would only recommend a short one if you plan to carry it concealed. I've owned quite a few over the years, mostly S&Ws, my favorite, but also a Python and a couple of Rugers. All good, but the Smiths are the best IMO.
 
I've had one Taurus revolver that would lock up upon firing, and another that worked just fine along with a Taurus pt92 that worked just fine. So they're not bad, but they can be hit and miss. My understanding is Taurus will gladly fix them if you do get one that has problems.
I don't know how well their longevity holds up. Smiths and Rugers hold up pretty well.
 
In my opinion, there are only two 6" .357 Magnum DA revolvers you should be considering:

1. Smith & Wesson 686 (my choice)
2. Ruger GP100 (cheaper option)

I don't own a Tarus, but I have read a lot of mixed reviews on them. From what I understand, Tarus is the "knock-off" version of Smith & Wesson (metaphorically speaking).
 
i just got a ruger blackhawk last night. (traded set of crimson lasergrips for the ruger and a springfield single shot 20 gauge).

between getting a sig p229 saturday and this, i've got a lot to learn with their manual of arms.
 
The model 19 is great

Lets not for get the S&W model 19 from what Ive seen a 4in model 19 S&W sells for about the same as a ruger or taurus and has a much smoother action. Still the ruger is a good gun and will proably outlast the Smith with magnum loads. I dont have any expertise at all with taurus.

Personally I would not consider a 357 in any barrel lenth under 4in. You get much shorter and the muzzel blast and noise level are horrible and it will problably just be used used as a heavy duty 38 snubbie. Not to mention you dont get near the use out of the 357 cartridge. For carrying ease anythigh longer than 6in is inconvienient in a double action and throws off your balance.
Guns with longer and shorter barrels are best left as specialty peices, ie target/hunting guns or backup/concealed guns.
Stay away from the small frame airlights. Who ever thought those up was nuts. They are great, I guess, for having a lightwieght peice for hot weather but if you ever had to fire one...ouch!
 
357 revolver

I can only offer what i know. I JUST got a used Model 19 combat with 6inch barrel. For a double action trigger poll it exceeds my expectation as a quick double tap with 357 loads at sever yards...its combat effective at that range with point shooting..(greasing someone in the chest). But if you are a smaller framed person it might be to much maintain with rapid fire. Now with that same gun i steeped back to 30 yards and smoked a water bottle withing and this is with mayber 50 rounds of 357 and 50 of 38 through is for practice which is great for me. So IMHO the 6 inch barrel is a blend of both worlds where it does good in the three concerns for me...Point shooting, accuracy shooting, recoil....oh and 1 more. WEIGHT. its not heavy or light its just right. Consider the feel of the grip...the weight...and the balacing of the weight. If you get those 3 attributes to your liking you can't go wrong is a 357 or 44mag for that matter. Theres my 2 cents on my limited knowledge.
 
LEO GP100 trade in is a nice start...

The .357magnum is actually a pretty versitile round.

Other folks have already mentioned some good recomendations for barrel length and purpose.

As far as ammo, speer gold dots (158gr for 357 or 125gr for 38spl+p) are my favorite right now.

The .357 is quite possibly one of the most versitile revolvers out there. (save for maybe the 460 S&W) light CAS loads of 700fps all the way upto 170gr or 180gr "deer hunting" loads.

As far as number of rounds, that all depends on how much you want to spend and where. A good S&W 686P (I think) has 7rd capacity.

there are no speedloaders for 8shot S&W or Taurus .357s. The ones from Maxfire are very "clunky". I just had my Taurus 608SS4 converted to use moonclips. (like what the S&W does...same clips even)

The heaviest loads will almost require a ruger GP100, as they are without a doubt the most well built revolvers. (their actions need work, but, they are SOLID)

Just my $.02.
 
Ruger is he most rugged if you are a corbon burner, a spring kit, and 500+ rounds smoothes the action up. S&W to me has best action and feel in the hand. Colts are just to darn expensive for what you get, dont get me wrong, I,m not knocking Colt,s, I just think Ruger and S&W have te wheelgun market. Barrell lenght depends on purpose. Self defense carry I have a Ruger SP101, short 5 shot and will eat whatever yoo feed it. Target I have 4 inch GP100. Will eat whatever you feed it and will take max loads. The beauty of the 357 is practice with 38 special save $. The 357 holds the record for the most one shot kills of any caliber. Sorry don,t mean to ramble on but 357 is a good choice in handguns.
 
maybe one of these......

686+ (7 shooter) 4" barrel, designed for heavy use of .357.
Accurate you'll never regret it.

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I can't believe no one has mentioned the Ruger SP101. Its a great gun. Its worth looking into.Check it out I bet you will like it. He is a Link that will help out.

Mak
 
The reason I didn't mention the SP-101's was that since the thread originator stated that he was looking at a 6" barrel Taurus, I had to assume that he was interested in full sized handguns. SP-101's are fine handguns, it is true, but they are a smaller package, intended to fill a different niche. Just trying to stay on topic, and stay within the "interest range" of the original poster.
 
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