Pistol Packing College Teacher in Classroom.

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I've been offered the opportunity to teach a couple of courses at a community college starting in a few weeks. Does anyone know what I would need to do to be able to legally carry a concealed weapon on my person while teaching in front of the classroom? I already have a Florida issued CWL, but reading the law, it appears that that is not enought to legally carry on a college campus.
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A FL Concealed Weapons License does not authorize you to carry a firearms on a university or college campus.

790.06 License to carry concealed weapon or firearm

Section 12: No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any area vocational-technical center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
http://licgweb.dos.state.fl.us/weapons/index.html


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"Get yourself a Lorcin and lose that nickel plated sissy pistol."

[This message has been edited by Tecolote (edited August 13, 2000).]
 
Unless you're a LEO I guess you're out of luck. Maybe you can get one of those elusive "special deputy marshall" badges Senator Feinstein is supposed to have. Or maybe those are just urban legends.

What's the law in Florida on pepper spray? And I assume you can carry a small knife.

[This message has been edited by RHC (edited August 13, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by RHC (edited August 13, 2000).]
 
Tecolote, I knew that the CWL alone doesn't cut it. I'm just asking if there is anything that a regular citizen (not a special marshall, reserve LEO, etc.) can do to be able to legally carry in a classroom (such as maybe written permission from the Dean, etc.).
 
Not a thing you can do about it...and consider this: If you talk about it to the dean or anyone on campus it may cause you problems with your tenure. Especially if you talk to a 'freind' now who decides in the future they do not like you after all...and they happen to be on the board who decides if you are able to 're-up'.

I carried a Buffalo Arms .357 derringer. American Arms or some such thing might be something to consider-just don't talk about it or 'print'.

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Satanta, I'm not a teacher so tenure is not an issue as I do not plan to do this as my reular line of work but because of some last minute scheduling difficulties and because of my working knowledge and professional experience, my name came up and I was offered the opportuinity to test two (maybe three) courses in this upcoming semester. I normally go armed whenever I legally can. The additionally income would be nice but it would also take a considerable amount of my time. I haven't completely decided but was leaning toward "yes" until the gun issue came up and now it looks like I'm leaning toward "no".
 
How 'bout teaching a course called
"Firearms 101", an attempt to cut through the b*ll s**t in academia about firearms. First segment would cover definitions, then you could move to a brief history of technology and how that came into play. A section on the history of firearm laws in the development of the US would really be interesting. So would a section on firearms and the Bill or Rights. Another section on the place of personal protection in Europe about the time America was developing would really p*ss off the leftists. You could then move to the constitutional convention debate over the place of an armed citizenry in a free society. You might also require your students to read and understand John Lott's book, "More Guns, Less Crime"

This is just the beginning of a course outline. Maybe some of the TLF'ers out there could add.

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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater--1964
 
I had an interesting experience when I was in college about 10 years ago. I was wearing a fanny pack to carry my wallet, keys, etc., I did not have a gun in it. I went up to the instructor to ask a question. Before I asked my question he asked me "Do you have a gun in there?" pointing to my fanny pack. I was surprised by the question and answered no and let it drop. This was an criminal justice professor (he was not or ever was an LEO). So basically what I learned from this experience is that people in academia generally do not like guns. I agree with Satanta, don't say anything to anybody.
 
Loose Lips Sink Ships... There may come a point in your life where you believe that the law in general is too pervasive in our lives. That the law attempts to regulate so much of our activities that it is impossible for an innocent law abiding individual to put up with the infringements on his or her freedoms. For example, the freedom to defend your life anytime, anywhere, with whatever means necessary. At the point where this realization sets in you may say "damn the law" for as John Locke wrote: "The law could not restore life to my dead carcass."

When the laws are so pervasive and stiffling to freedom, people will lose respect for the law and those who pen it.

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The first step is registration, the second step is confiscation, the final step is subjugation.
 
FUD, the only way you'll ever be able to legally carry a gun on a college campus in Florida is to be a sworn law enforcement officer.

No Dean will authorize an employee to carry a firearm at a school even if statute permitted it, which is does not. To do so would be to accept strict liability for any actions taken by the employee with that gun.

With a CCW you can legally carry, concealed, on a university campus, a non-projectile taser device or a can of chemical spray over .5 oz net weight. These exceptions do not apply to primary or secondary schools, only college campuses (campi?)

[This message has been edited by TBeck (edited August 15, 2000).]
 
Here in Oklahoma college presidents can give permission to have firearms on campus, but the law is kind of vague on whether that includes concealed weapons. I think it was meant to cover people going hunting and kids bringing their hunting guns from home and keeping them in their vehicles.
 
Based on what I'm hearing, it looks like I'm not going to be teaching after all. I already got a full-time day job which keeps me pretty busy anyway.
 
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