Pistol Lock

[Bill Cutty]

Hi All.

Listening to the news and I become disappointed, bewildered and enraged all around.

I am wondering if anybody makes a decent pistol lock (not a box) which can be afixed to hand gun and will operate without a key and can be operated eyes closed. Maybe a combo, but not one of those magnetic/ring ones.

Thanks.

 

[chibiker]

How odd...

I go to school part time... computer stuff. Today's class we were discussing various biometric protected devices, programming them, ect.

So to answer your question, there is a company that makes a trigger lock that is accessed through biometric (in this case, fingerprint) identification.

They, Ritech also make biometric holsters and storage cases. http://www.ritech.com.hk/rt5300.html

Um, why are your eyes closed?

 

[Hirlau]

Hello Bill,

Here is a simple lock for the revolver, thru chamber or possibly behind trigger, depending on the size of revolver. the lock can be set to your combo; what you do is set it to a combo that aligns the levers to a location easily found by hands only. A few minutes of practice and darkness is not a problem.

With an auto, more time needed to bring into action; due to a cable through port, more than likely needed. Possibly hehind trigger, depending on model.

 

[44 AMP]

Why?

And by that, I mean that I fail to see any point to a lock on a handgun. I know they are currently all the rage with the safety nazis and bliss ninnys, and that many gun makers have included locks into new designs, in order to be able to sell their product in various jurisdictions.

But I have to ask WHY? What earthly good can a lock do, other than to put you at risk? An unloaded gun is nothing more than an oddly shaped lump of metal (and nowadays plastic), and useless as anything other than an impact weapon.

A loaded gun should not, must not have a lock on it. Any kind of trigger lock on a loaded gun is idiocy! The only thing that belongs on or around the trigger of a loaded gun is your finger, and then, only when your sights are on your target!

I fail to see any point to a lock (non trigger) either. Mechanical devices, locks included, can, and do fail. Leaving a loaded gun unattended, trusting to a lock is foolishness. Sure, as long as the lock works, you would be "fine". but if a lock should fail, you are still responsible. And in a defensive gun, there have been documented cases of locks failing, in the locked position. Not a risk I would voluntarily acccept in a tool that I might have to use to save my life or others (no matter how statistically slight). I believe that the time needed to unlock a loaded gun (assuming you accept the argument that you should do so) would be better spent loading an empty gun instead.

If you need secure a loaded gun (and again, I have to ask why?) you lock the gun in something (like a safe). You do not lock the gun, leaving it out, and available to unauthorised hands.

Put a lock on you unloaded gun if it makes you feel safer. Its your gun, do as you want. But be aware that thats all you gain, from a safety standpoint, a good feeling.

Securing a gun against theft is a different issue. But even there, I go with locking the gun in something, not locking the gun with something.

 

[AZAK]

I fail to see any point to a lock (non trigger) either. Mechanical devices, locks included, can, and do fail. Leaving a loaded gun unattended, trusting to a lock is foolishness.

-44 AMP (emphasis by AZAK)
Really can't make it any simpler than that.

 

[dannyb]

Why? We do it for the CHILDREN. Hillary told us it takes a village including the lock maker. Hitler did it for the children too - so that the children could have room to live - just not all the children (somebody has to make room). We make sure that you can't shoot the 24 year-old deprived child who just broke down your door, wants to kill you, rape and kill your loved ones, and then steal whatever he can grab before somebody with an unlocked firearm can appear to violate his right to a fair trial, short sentence, and rehabilitation.

 

[Hirlau]

44 AMP,
I hope the lecture was for Bill.

I don't agree on locks either, for several reasons. I simply gave him what I felt was a solution/answer to his opening question.

I don't know what Bill's motivation was for asking or why he needs a lock under the conditions he stated.

If someone asked me to find a way of mounting a "Bug Zapper" on the tail rotor of a helicopter; I would try to find a way.

 

[David Armstrong]

But I have to ask WHY? What earthly good can a lock do, other than to put you at risk?

Because it is one more option or an additional layer in the safety equation.

If you need secure a loaded gun (and again, I have to ask why?) you lock the gun in something (like a safe).

Loaded or unloaded is irrelevant. Sometimes a safe isn't available, and you secure the firearm as best you can to reduce the chance of loss or unauthorized use.

 

[jgcoastie]

Because it is one more option or an additional layer in the safety equation.

How much "safer" can we be??? We have an unloaded gun with no magazine or individual rounds in the gun, anywhere. So we should put a lock through the slide/mag well to prevent theft??? Sorry, but if I wanted to steal a gun, those flimsy cable locks would not stop me from grabbing it. They can be easily cut with a pair of bolt cutters once they get back to their 'hideout'.

Loaded or unloaded is irrelevant. Sometimes a safe isn't available, and you secure the firearm as best you can to reduce the chance of loss or unauthorized use.

Example: Holster on your hip. When you're asleep, holster attached to the bed or nightstand.

 

[KyJim]

I don't use locks but can see a need for them in some limited circumstances. In addition, those who are not that familiar with firearms may simply feel uncomfortable with them and this gives an added sense of security until they become familiar with the guns.

 

[Jacobie]

Maybe the OP is a heavy sleeper and is worried someone will break in his house and use his gun on him before he even wakes up.

 

[jgcoastie]

Maybe the OP is a heavy sleeper and is worried someone will break in his house and use his gun on him before he even wakes up.

If that is the case, then I would suggest to the OP that they invest in a good alarm system, a guard dog, or both.

 

[David Armstrong]

How much "safer" can we be???

Depends. What level of safety is enough for you? Or more accurately, how unsafe are you willing to be?

So we should put a lock through the slide/mag well to prevent theft???

If you want to. It is better than NOT having it locked if a theft is attempted.

Sorry, but if I wanted to steal a gun, those flimsy cable locks would not stop me from grabbing it. They can be easily cut with a pair of bolt cutters once they get back to their 'hideout'.

That's nice, but depending on the lock not all are that easy to cut. Some badguys don't have bolt cutters. Some BGs may just leave it because it is more trouble than they want to mess with. Maybe that flimsy cable lock also secures the gun to something else. Of course, not all locks are "flimsy cable locks. " And most importantly, it is not all about BGs. It also helps prevent good guys from doing stupid things.

Example: Holster on your hip. When you're asleep, holster attached to the bed or nightstand.

What if I don't want my holster on my hip all the time? Or maybe I have curious little ones. I might be a pretty heavy sleeper who doesn't want to give a burglar a gun he can immediately use if I happen to wake up. Lots of pro to the gun lock, little negative IMO.

 

[44 AMP]

Its all in your point of view, its your gun(s). But I feel it is preferable to lock the gun in something rather than lock something in the gun.

And if you are worried about a burglar or "little ones" getting their hands on a loaded gun (and using it), UNLOAD the darn thing!. A loaded magazine or a speedloader in a seperate, but convienient location solves your worries.

People are fond of saying "you can't be too safe" but the reality is, you can. Everything in life has an element of risk, even getting out of bed to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night has risks.

Use a graded approach to risk management. You can disassemble the gun, lock it with a cable lock, put it in a safe, and bury the safe in the backyard and cover it with concrete if you want to, but you are no safer than you are with the gun unloaded.

 

[Bill Cutty]

Thanks for all the replies.

I am aware of all the pros and cons.

Aside from the fact that the law here requires they be locked, it is for my wife. She is the cop. Not I.

She carried a piece for 20 years and won't do it again. I have a safe and I have a lock box. When I travel, I want a weapon more accessible for her. She insists on the lock. I have a teenaged daughter who is not my wife's concern, but rather the boys she has as friends. (my daughter's friends. LOL)

 

[HAS01]

Possible Solution

I was searching gun locks and came across this thread and it inspired me to join your forum. I make a line of furniture that this is its intended purpose is to secure firearms, and to make them accessable also. I came up with the idea because my son was dating a girl with a two year old daughter.

Check out my cabinets and give me your opinion. The site is HomeArmourySolutions.com

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

HAS01

 

[woad_yurt]

Biometrics makes a one gun safe that opens with a fingerprint scan. Keeps little kiddies safe but lets you get that gun in action real quick if needed. I think it costs about $250-$300.

 

[James K]

I agree that a lock on a defense gun is problematical. But if all gun locks are totally evil, and part of an Obamaite, left-wing commie plot, what is my gun safe? Or should I just leave everything on the living room floor and post a sign on the front yard for people to help themselves? In the name of freedom, of course?

Jim

 

[Expypate]

I am also not a fan of locking up a gun and think that you'll have quick access to if needed, but here is a lock I sell quite a bit. It's made by CCL.