PETA's dirty little secrets

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Dangus

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As many of you know, PETA has its collective head up its collective rear.

Recently I heard of some PETA folks freaking out about people killing Prarie Dogs, and they've also been freaking out about other sorts of hunters. What baffles me is, PETA kills FAR more animals than hunters ever could.

If you know what the back room of a human society building looks like you probably know what I mean(most human societies are packed with PETA people and their clones).
Usually their back room is a very efficient chamber of death, with an outbuilding that functions as a crematorium. Often people will bring pets in because they are moving and can't take their pets with them so they take them to the humane society in hopes of having them given to better homes, but sometimes, when they change their minds and come right back in, their pet is already dead. No, they don't always give the animals 5 days before killing them. In fact, most of the time it's straight to the death camp with em. Not only do they massacre these animals, but they don't do it for any reason whatsoever, and they claim that "it's for their own good". BS.

We have too many praire dogs, and too many deer. Yet for some reason were are killing predators off by the hundreds of thousands. Does this strike you as being idiotic? Moreover, we, hunters, who respect animals and often view them with great regard, are painted as monsters, while PETA types deal pointless deaths to hundreds of thousands of animals, possibly millions, every year. What's worse is that often you go into a "humane" society, and the college girls there take the animals and say "oh! what a beautiful kitty", then 5 minutes later 'beautiful kitty' is roasting in an crematorium.

These people make me sick. Why, when we kill for food or for sport, and kill only in moderation and with great care, are we painted as monsters, when these people kill with no justification, no intention of using for food, and with absolutely no conscience whatsoever. It's just creepy.

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
There is little or no connection, generally, between PETA and your local animal shelter, humane society, "dog pound", etc. It might well be that a member of PETA would be employed there, but I've never heard of any "official" PETA policy in that regard.

I know that, generally, Austin and Alpine, Texas, keep animals five or more days; from the racket at the local humane society in Thomasville, GA, some 250 yards from my wife's office, they definitely keep dogs longer than five days. The shelter here has a very good reputation.

Regards, Art
 
Well, every single member of the local human society is a PETA member.

Also, my friend's wife runs her own animal shelter out of protest of the treatment animals get at the "humane" societies. She claims, and I have no reason to doubt her, that the operation at our local pet death camp is fairly standard fare.

I think Denver Minnesota has the best solution. They had a rampant wild pet population up there, but some Vietnamese immigrants have settled there in large numbers. Problem solved, lol. (actually that may not be true, but it's damn funny ;) anyone from Denver wanna set me straight?)


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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
"Mommy, what's for dinner?"

"Not much dear, just some of the new puppies that Woofy had last week"


hehehehehe

No talk of eating cats though, that's just not cool

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
As someone who has worked in an animal shelter, I feel I need to clear up a couple of misconceptions posted here.
In the first place, there are well over 6000 animal shelters in this country. They are also mostly operated and funded by members of the local community. Some are municipal or regional operations, funded by tax dollars. Others are private groups that survive on donations.
PETA does not have any control over any of these operations beyond a possible common philosophical outlook. IOW, they don't pick up the tab and they don't set the rules.
All animal shelters have a limit for how many unwanted animals they can accomodate at any given time. Whether it's 50 or 100 or 500 animals, available space and funding will dictate their capacity.
Most communities have laws that require stray animals to be held for a specific period of time, usually 5-7 days. This has nothing to do with compassion, but rather it provides someone the opportunity to reclaim his lost property.
Until that period passes, the shelter does not have legal ownership of the animal and cannot dispose of it, either by making it available for adoption or by euthanizing it.
When someone brings in their own pet and surrenders it to the shelter, they are transferring legal ownership to the shelter immediately. This allows the shelter to decide upon its disposition at that time.
My wife and I worked in a shelter that could house 100 animals. There were days when we would get over 200 animals surrendered between opening and closing time. Sadly, these days were not uncommon. We averaged about 50-60 adoptions per month. We were forced to euthanize 5000-6000 animals per year. Many of them were healthy, adoptable dogs and cats that had the misfortune to belong to irresponsible, selfish human beings.
If you want to see why some of these PETA people are extremists, try working in the euthanasia room of your local animal shelter for a month.
Trust me, the staff turnover in that area is very high. They could always use your help.




[This message has been edited by Karanas (edited August 15, 2000).]
 
I must disagree about that. As an individual who personally has the responsibility of performing the euthanasias for our county pound, I think it would be a great eye-opener for wacked-out, anthropormorphic morons like the PETA extremists to be required to see. Since the true extremist wants all animals to roam free, euthanasia is the end result when they are picked-up. As far as shelters go, a true humane society does serve a useful purpose and is not opposed to destruction of animals when needed. This is likely more than an activist can stand. From their point of view comes the infamous " no-kill" shelter, which is a death sentence for many. I have seen it happen many times and it usually progresses as follows. Several extremist types play on the sympathies of the people to get monies to begin the shelter. As a no-kill operation, people with unwanted or even dangerous pets flock in like flies to a carcass. Soon the facility is full of animals which for one reason or another are un-adoptable. Due to their philosophy, they keep these animals until they die of natural causes, in some cases allowing cruel suffering and a slow death because they dont beleive in euthanasia. For each animal like this that they take in, a "good" one will likely be destroyed because there is no room and they go to the pound. Another infamous "death sentence" technique used by these people is to charge a fee for the adoption. Let's face it, there are too many free barn cats around to pay a $50 fee to get one. I have even seen cases where these "doo-gooders" will only adopt an animal to the "right" home. If this occurs outside of a no kill facility, it is likely that the right home ends up being the freezer or crematory. Most of the radicals are just un-informed well meaning individuals who have been duped into thinking that there is no difference between us and the animals. Furthermore, if some of them would be willing to see how quickly a properly placed bullet kills, they would then see that it is more humane than euthanasia.
 
The philosophy of PETA is that the lives of animals are morally eqivalent to the lives of humans, and killing an animal is basically the same as killing a retarded child. And eating meat is just like cannibalism. Breeding animals for pets is immoral, and all pet species should be neutered and allowed to go extinct. Humans have no rights to use animals in any way, such as for food, pets, or research subjects.

Interestingly, I recently read a news article that revealed PETA was involved in euthanizing hundreds of unadoptable dogs. I guess they don't really think animals are retarded children...or maybe they do. Some animal rights people actually hate humans. If you get the idea that a rat's life is equal to your neighbors, your opionion of his life is dramatically lowered. Peter Singer, author of "Animal Liberation" is perhaps the most famous advocate of infanticide. I was forced to read one of his articles in Ethics, and he argues babies are not people, and should be killed if they are going to be sick or retarded. He finished the article by stating that, while babies don't have a right to life, adult animals do...
 
Karanas & MFH...been there, done that. Both in a Humane Society shelter and county shelter as well as a veterinary tech.

County shelter day-to-day:
1)Clean cages.
2)Euthansia [50 to 100 animals ben there for a week]
3)Feed and Water
4)Bring in animals from night-drop [These are cages in the front with padlocks so people who are 'too good' to be seen can drop off 'Lucky' the puppy that piddles on the carpet]
4)Open to Public.
5)Close to public
6)Euthanasia
7)Take fully loaded 1ton p.U to the dump and dispose of carcases.
8)clean-up and feed the 'Newbies' and the others.
9)Go home and get sick. Get drunk.

That's yer average day in a county shelter.

Humane Society...well, if we were full the people were told to take them to the County shelter.

PETA needs to get their heads out of their fudge-holes. None of the jobs I ever worked had PETA people in 'em...they were to busy elsewhere to see what the reality of life is about.
 
Gotta "How ya doin'?" call from a neighbor some 20 minutes ago. We're out in the country; some farm land, some "wild" country along a small river.

The local humane society has had some HavaHart-type traps out for a couple of weeks, catching cats. In this immediate area, they have now taken 73 feral housecats.

It would be nice to have some songbirds? Some squirrels? Rabbits? Quail?

Well, 74 cats. There's another one in a trap, right now, awaiting pickup.

FWIW, Art
 
Sounds like another case of "they need to roam free", not to mention a good opportunity for target practice. :)
 
Wouldn't many of you that live in the midwest, and have to deal with hordes of praerie dogs just love to see more human-friendly predators unleashed in the area? I mean thousands of cats would do wonders for the problems.

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
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