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Edward429451

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Lots of folks get on here and complain about this or that. You will hear them espouse how bad a product is, the trigger sucks on that XXX, or, my reloading equipment is temperamental, I want to send it back! Thereby focusing on the negative, poor show.

Just once sometime, approach from the other direction. Instead of voicing negative attributes of your trigger or whatever and then harping on it, make the point of the products design flaws that you perceive, and then, tell us instead, how you conquered it and was still able to shoot good with it, if you were able to of course.

The gun is the gun, the man is the man. Of course the gun has shortcomings...but what can you do with it despite its shortcomings. hmm? :D

I've asked this of people here before when they're bellyaching about their trigger and I never have gotten an answer. :D
My buddys Beretta Storm 45 has the most horrible plastic trigger in the world, but I can shoot it minute of pop can out to 50 yds. I think if you have to go with what you have, then you better approach it from a different perspective than complaining.
 
I think if you have to go with what you have, then you better approach it from a different perspective than complaining.
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but....but...but.... this is the Internet:eek: Isn't that what it's for? Well, that and Facespace or whatever the heck is popular now:D

I dunno, I think there are a lot of "reviews" that do espouse good features of a firearm and like any balanced review, also some "bad" features. Heck, I just got a little 22 plinker that will bite the center inch out of target at 100 yards, but won't lock back after the mag is empty. I still like it, but it's pretty annoying to keep dry-firing a rimfire.

Guess it also might be a good way to blow off steam regarding a "bad" purchase. Not necessarily a bad gun, but one that doesn't fit the...steam-blower-offer..:confused: Most shops don't have return policies based on "I just don't like it"
 
I've been very lucky. I think. I have a fairly large collection and have had very little trouble with them. I generally buy from only about six well known manufacturers and I'm happy with all my guns.

They are all more accurate than I am and are very reliable.
 
What sets me off is not complaining...it is ambiguous complaining: "It's a piece of Junk...", "I was not impressed with its construction...", etc. Ambiguous complaining does not impart any useful information. For instance, if the extractor had insufficient hold on the case causing malfunctions, say so... And if someone has specific issues with your favorite, that does not make them a (put your favorite brand here), hater.
 
I've been very lucky. I think. I have a fairly large collection and have had very little trouble with them. I generally buy from only about six well known manufacturers and I'm happy with all my guns.
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Six? I have had the most issues (Handguns), with Colt (, one with S&W, one with a Ruger. But, of course these are not well known manufactures.:rolleyes:
 
OK, I'll try -

For some reason, I wound up buying a Winchester 9410 (which is a lever-action shotgun that looks quite a bit like a Winchester 94 in .30-30.) And then my wife liked it so much I had to buy another one, if I ever expected to be able to shoot it.

The second one had a problem with the tang safety. As I remember, it wouldn't go to the "engaged" position unless I pulled the hammer back slightly.

The way Winchester designed the tang safety on this model, there is a little steel finger that slides sideways and blocks the hammer from forward travel. However, there is a "cut" in the hammer that allows it to be cocked, even if the safety is on. (So, you can apply the safety regardless of the hammer position.)

At any rate, I was able to disassemble both rifles and measure the parts. By filing the cut on the second one's hammer, I got it to agree with the first one. Then they both worked the same.

I suppose I could have sent it back to Winchester, but I had read that they were having trouble with QC, the 9410's were already getting hard to find, and so I reluctantly decided to fix it myself.

I don't have a scorecard on success/failure on repairs, on various things, but I believe it is somewhat higher than 75% success. So, while I have limited experience with gunsmithing, success in multiple other areas offered some encouragement. However, if I ever own a Browning BLR, I believe I will leave that one alone... :)
 
By filing the cut on the second one's hammer, I got it to agree with the first one. Then they both worked the same.
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Now, that's what I'm talking about. A success story and no whining! When I ordered my Happy Trigger from WWG, my buddy brought over his 336 and pulled his trigger and followed the lines of the Happy Trigger, and seriously improved his trigger without the 100 bucks.:D

Great song. I listened to it all the way through. :D
 
OK here goes nothing. I few months back I bought my first T/C in 22 hornet. for the most part it worked well but when you go to open the action it was really hard to open. After a little searching on the internet I ran into some information that seemed viable on how to fix the issue. But I needed a sharping stone to do the fix. It was much harder to find an old style stone than to fix the gun! With about 5 minutes work on the breach latch face with my new stone it became a easy task to get the thing to work.
My wife was so impressed by the improvement that she asked me to do the same to her T/C. Did I mention that we have two of T/C's now?
 
A few years ago, I picked up a Kahr PM9. Liked the trigger, loved the accuracy, but had serious issues with reliability.

Checked the forums, and found several recommendations to use the 6rd mags instead of the 7rd mags. This helped, but didn't completely fix the FTRB issue.

Checked the forums again, and discovered the "Fluff and Buff." Took an exacto to some polymer irregularities, and some fine grit sandpaper to portions of the slide, and the gun became much more reliable. Enough, at least, that I was perfectly comfortable selling it to a friend, after letting him put quite a bit of ammo through it to test it for himself.

(I found that, at least in my pockets, the irregular shape of a J-frame was easier to conceal than the angles of the PM9.)
 
I bought a S&W 4003 for a night stand gun and first option in home defence. Has the worst trigger of any of the firearms I shoot on a regular basis (I love my SA revolvers). I don't complain about it because because the long DA and SA travel and harder pull are what I want if I have to use it for the intended purpose. The only real problem is I need to shoot it more and I am the only solution.

I also have a Heritage Rough Rider 22lr/22mag with the safety that so many hate. It was on the gun when I bought it and doesn't bother me a bit.

Traded the only Glock I have ever had with a co-worker for my first SA revolver. Great trade for both of us. I may even own another Glock someday.

Most of my guns are better guns that I am a shooter.

I don't pay much attention to negative rants especially if they don't also offer a solution.

Hope this is what you are looking for!
James
 
The Colt Python is so ugly that whenever I looked at one in the gunshop it would make me tear up.

I solved that problem by not buying one.
 
I think if you have to go with what you have, then you better approach it from a different perspective than complaining.
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My father used to tell me, when I was belly aching about something, "You dance with with who you brought, not with who you wish you had."

In other words, learn to use what you have. If you can improve it, great.

I don't pay much attention to negative rants especially if they don't also offer a solution.
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I also agree with this. If you do not like something, tell us why and what you think will fix the problem or make it better.

I do not like most 1911 style pistols. They are too big for my hand. I finally found one (Stoeger Cougar, .45 ACP) that I like. The Remington 915, 9 mm is another one I like, my only complaint is my buddy refuses to turn possession of it over to me! Looks like I will have to get one off of Gunbroker.
 
I also agree with this. If you do not like something, tell us why and what you think will fix the problem or make it better.
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Ok, here goes: I hate the Glock trigger. Here's how to fix it. Get rid of the trigger dingus, and other internal safeties. Put a manual safety on it. Turn it into a true single-action-only with a very short, crisp trigger with hardly any take-up.
 
Rock Island Armory CS

Pretty on the outside and a straight shooter when it worked and looked really nice with the parked finish and rubber grips from a Colt Defender - very poor machining on the inside though.

Was a shame to let it go and possibly could have fixed on warranty but I just didn't want to go through all the effort.

KelTec P3AT - most likely not the gun's fault - consistent FTEs, possible cause - my largish hands on a tiny tiny grip - consistent trigger reset failures, possible cause, not releasing trigger completely. Again, warranty or practice could have fixed, but I just did not feel the gun suited me
 
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I am OK with the trigger on my Remington .308 5R. I tried to adjust it down to 2-2 1/2 pounds but only able to get to 3 1/2. To get a better feel for the trigger I took it to my garage and dry fired a few times. I also gave some attention to my mechanics, especially trigger pull. I was pulling up on the trigger and using too much finger vs squeezing, or slowly applying pressure until the trigger broke. The end results (2ea. 5 shot softball sized groups) were much, much better compared to the first time I shot 400 yards.
 
This is my kind of thread! Lots of times one can improve their trigger pull. Just smoothing it up helps alot even without lightening it. My new 45 (then) had a real gritty trigger when I bought it. I polished the back of the trigger and the front of the disconnector and it's a real slick 4.5 lbs. It's still full of creep and overtravel but I did not want to modify it, only smooth it up. It shoots fine.

We fixed a broken H&R 932 (?) and didn't even consider sending it in to get it fixed. We fixed it with a pc of scrap metal off the garage floor! With a vise, vise-grips, a file, and a drill. It worked! Who knows where it is now, one of you folks own it now. :D

I think you call it the pawel what we made.
 
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