pellets in side lock gun...won't fire .. how to get bullet out

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pnolans

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So, I'm one of the new guys on the block.

I went out this morning, 2nd time ever. I had my Lyman deerstalker percussion cap rifle.

I without any malice aforethought put 2 pellets of Hodgon down the barrel, and then a Powerbelt 295 bullet.

Put a #11 cap on , aimed, pulled the trigger. The cap "fired", no boom otherwise. Put another cap on. Again. same thing.

So, I did a little target practice with my 9mm pistol , and then came home.

THEN I read the manual and see that pellets are not recommended because of their ignition issues.
So, yes, I'm the dumbass. I tried to remove the bullet using a bullet puller, but can't get it started on the bullet. It has a pointed end, so I'm not terribly surprised.

Should I go find one of those CO2 gizmo's? Or is there another solution?

as always, thanks in advance for any help. you folks have been really helpful... hope I don't wear you out.

Pat
 
CO2 is the way to go. Be sure it's pointed in a safe direction with sufficient backstop to keep it from embedding itself into something the wife doesn't want destroyed. Plenty of old phone books are ideal.
 
Remove the nipple and pour a little FFFg or equivalent down the hole, then install the nipple, cap it and fire it. I should light off those pellets. Thats how I removed a stuck cleaning jag one time.
 
I agree with removing the nipple and adding fine powder under your pellets.

Cheaper than the CO2 device and you won't have the device bouncing around your range bag for the next 20 years... because we all know you ain't ever going to do that again right?... LOL.

Actually, the CO2 device can make you the hero when you pull it out to help a fellow shooter.
 
robhof

If you have a compressor with a tank and it will hold 100psi you can hook up a blower nozzle and a short section of thick hose that'll fit snug over the nipple and blow it out that way, use same precautions as mentioned above for co2.:eek::D
 
Remove the nipple and pour a little FFFg or equivalent down the hole, then install the nipple, cap it and fire it. I should light off those pellets. Thats how I removed a stuck cleaning jag one time.
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I have also used that method to blow out a ball that was rammed down without a powder charge under it.
And it will happen to you eventually, usually while someone is talking to you while you are shooting.
 
For shame, for shame B.L.E. . . . you dry balled your rifle?! :eek:

I just can't imagine anybody doing that . . . forgetting to put powder in first. :)

Don't feel alone . . . like you say, sooner or later it will happen and usually when someone bothers you during the loading process . . . you're in good company though . . . a lot of us are "card carrying members" of that club! :D
 
I reckon that the number of times I double loaded makes up for my dry balls.;)

I also missed my share of clay birds because I forgot the shot, usually because someone was talking to me at the loading table.
 
I've removed the screw on the drum and added powder to remove a stuck jag before. Never did find that nice brass jag..... Still, the comp air method works well. Try that first.
 
NER,

I never found my nice jag either :rolleyes: I didn't think it would go that far, heck I didn't even see it fly out of the barrel, it was bookin with that tiny bit of powder I poured in the nipple hole. Hey thats an Idea, when they ban lead I'll start shooting patched cleaning jags :D Hey they DO have the lube grooves and everything. haha
 
DS,
There you go, we can replace lead with cleaning jags. And you are right, they have those nice grooves in em. :D
Yup, mine found a new home on the forest floor, nice and comfy with all them dead leaves for it to hide under. :o
 
Got it!!!!

So, I thought some more about this problem, and put on my "workbench/mechanic" hat. I had a rod with a threaded screw on the bottom. AKA a bullet puller.

I put my gun on the floor, standing up, next to my workbench, wrapped the barrel in some cloth, and secured it with a vise. Then using two hands, pushing down on the rod and turning with the other hand, I got the "bullet puller" to start onto the bullet. Then I just pulled it out.

If that hadn't of worked, I would have put the ramrod into a cordless screwdriver and then pushed with both hands.

I felt silly, because I wasn't thinking mechanically. Just as a newbie MZL-nut.

So, it also turned out that I had only put one pellet in , and it was NOT black side down!!!! DUH! :rolleyes:

So, now i'm good. But thanks for all of the ideas... I will use them in the future, I'm sure.

Pat
 
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WOW again

Im even newer than you and find it terribly fascinating the myriad of way people recommend to fix our screw ups.

NOT LAUGHING AT YOU BUT LAUGHING WITH YOU
 
So, yes, I'm the dumbass.
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Far as getting bullets stuck in BP'S , we've all had that same dumbass attack. ;) Some of us more then once or 4-5 times. :o

As a rule, PowerBelts load very easily. In turn, they will usually unload very easily requiring very little Co2 or compressed air pressure.

Wait till you get one of those over-sized conicals stuck down there that you had to drive home with a mallet. :D You will more then likely break your ball puller and have to end up using one of the above suggested methods. Either removing the nipple or breach and priming, using your Co2 or an air compressor to shoot the bullet and ball puller out.

FWIW, if you're ever shooting PRB and load a very tight load minus powder, if load won't blow out with Co2 or air compressor pour some solvent or soapy water down the bbl to soak patch and load will remove easier.
 
If ever unable to remove a stuck projectile by attempted pulling or air chuck. There is another method. Change out your nipple with a small straight grease fitting use in automotive purposes. Pump grease into your barrel with the use of an Plews automotive grease gun. The hydraulic action will move many stacked over charges. I push a barrel for a friend once with grease that had 4 charges and projectiles built up in it and left many years in that condition. The penance you pay for using grease is cleaning the barrel itself which you can do by hand or blow out with air. Otherwise that little CO-2 gizmo thingy usually works most of the time in the field or at home to remove a mistaken charge or two. If putting rifle into long time storage. A barrel pumped full of grease is the best one can do to keep rust at a minimum or nonexistent in a bore.
 
Old-Dogs learning new tricks

4V50 Gary CO2 is the way to go.
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For the most, I am Old-School and if you have been at this long enough, you will have your share of Dry-Balls. Boy, that doesn't read well. Anyway, I always took some satisfasction in pulling all projectiles with the good old screw jag. Years ago, I bought a TC Co2 pusher but still didn't use it. Then I was faced with a stuck range-rod. There was a dry patch on the end and two of us, could not pull it out. We soaked the bore with good ol #13 and an hour later, we pushed it out with the Co2 pusher and what a breeze it was. I will still pull a dry-ball to prove a point but mostly go to the pusher. I also use the pusher to initially clear a vent as oppose to popping a cap. ..... ;)

Be Safe !!!
 
Well, I got a bullet stuck again. I actually bent the bullet-puller screw trying to get it to start on the bullet.

So, when I get a chance (I'm at work till 8pm MST) my next try will be the Air compressor and the air.

But I'm really intrigued by Sureshot's idea about using a grease gun. Clearly I'll have many opportunities to try them all.

I'm pretty sure I didn't forget powder or anything. I tried 3 caps. I was at a public range with a hovering RSO , so I didn't get too creative... like using FFFG. Which I now carry with me, btw. :)

Boy, this is fun. It's freakin aggravating, but it's still fun. And the community here is such that I don't mind poking fun at myself!!!

DUH!
 
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