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870 12 guage magnum 2 3/4 - 3 shells with remchoke. The barrel is gloss like a Wingmaster.
They are asking $249

11-87 Sportsman? 12 guage with remchoke.
They are asking 499

I really want a Wingmaster 870 12 with remchoke. What’s the difference between the Wingmaster and the Magnum.

I already know I can get at 50-75$ off the asking price for these two.

I want an all around hunting Remington for Deer, Hog and turkey. I only hunt the public land near me and the FS only allows black powder or shotgun.
 
What are the stocks made of, walnut or plastic?
How is the receiver finished, polished or a blasted matt finish?
Is the barrel marked lite contour?
When you cycle the action how does it sound, very smooth or gritty?
How much does it weigh, a standard WM comes in at about 7 pounds?
 
magnum

I think the "Magnum" and the Wingmaster are likely the same guns. My vintage 870, bought in 1980, is marked MAGNUM Wingmaster. The old gun is pre Remchoke, and in those days, one could order either 3" chamber, or simply 2-3/4" About a decade later, we had several Rem 870 pumps simply marked "Magnum" at work, those guns would take either 2-3/4" or 3" shells, which became standard across the industry. But it wasn't always that way. Note that those "Magnum" marked guns were NOT 870 Express marked.

The only Rem 870 I would hesitate on would be those marked "Express". Understand, their are many satisfied users of 870 Express guns, (I had one in .410 w/o complaint) but I believe there are some production shortcuts in the Express line beyond the matte finish. I cannot name the difference, as I am far from educated on the 870, but I believe the "Magnum" marked guns are still of Wingmaster quality, and pre- "Express" models the pricepoiont version.

There are folks sharper than me on this, we will likely hear from them.
 
The 870 was marked with just 870 Magnum taking 2 3/4 as well as 3 inch shells and the slide felt smooth like my 16 Wingmaster. The stock appeared to be plastic wood maybe. Not that nice stock known to Wingmasters. I didn’t look super close at the receiver but it wasn’t the flat matte like on the express.

The 11-87 had the nice wood but with the matte rough receiver like the express.

I was real short on time so I didn’t look as close as I wanted because my wife was waiting in the car and you know what that means.
 
The 870 12 gauge sounds like a smokin good deal. Easy to find a wood stock if you like, and you could sure afford one at that price.
Barrel length? Would be ideal if 26-28 for a field gun.
 
Great that it is a Wingmaster, better if you can get a few $$ off.
The biggest problem with the 870's is exactly what model you have. There are so many different variations that Remington put together over the years and the different models from year to year.
Mine is a 1996 and there are at least 50 different ways Remington put the gun together.
You can not go wrong with the 870 Wingmaster!
 
I'm seeing a good deal

If it's a Wingmaster, it will say so, on the receiver. The Magnum rating refers to the acceptance of the 3" shells. I'm only going by my experience and sure wish I had some pictures to look at. ..... :)

Be Safe !!!
 
It says Wingmaster in the side just checked. Now I’m trying to throw some funds together to get it tomorrow. I’m going to sell my Wingmaster 16. I got it at a pawnshop last year for $130
 
My 96 has Remington Model 870 engraved on the receiver's left side along with
other engraving. I could not find "Wingmaster", very nice stock set with cut checkering.
The serial number on the receiver does end with a "M".
 
Could be ???

The serial number on the receiver does end with a "M"
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If it's a Magnum, it will be stamped; Magnum". Not aware of an "M"suffix on the serial number .... :confused:

Be Safe !!!
 
It says 870 Magnum on one side and Wingmaster on the other side. I'm gonna ask them if they'll take $200 cash for it.

It has vent ribs with 2 beeds, screw in chokes, and takes 3' shells.

I looked down the barrel and opened the action and there are very few blemishes.
 
Nice find. I hope it's still there when you get back!

I've found that one of the rules for shopping at pawn shops is that you can't hesitate. I've missed out on some cool stuff by deciding to come back the next day.
 
Chance's are he will have a very nice shotgun setting in his safe tonight.

Many of today's buying crowd want's no glare sandblasted finish with those ugly
plastic stocks. Must not forget extended magazine holding extra shells, a flashlight and red dot laser sight.
 
bamaranger said:
I think the "Magnum" and the Wingmaster are likely the same guns. My vintage 870, bought in 1980, is marked MAGNUM Wingmaster. The old gun is pre Remchoke, and in those days, one could order either 3" chamber, or simply 2-3/4" About a decade later, we had several Rem 870 pumps simply marked "Magnum" at work, those guns would take either 2-3/4" or 3" shells, which became standard across the industry. But it wasn't always that way. Note that those "Magnum" marked guns were NOT 870 Express marked.



The only Rem 870 I would hesitate on would be those marked "Express". Understand, their are many satisfied users of 870 Express guns, (I had one in .410 w/o complaint) but I believe there are some production shortcuts in the Express line beyond the matte finish. I cannot name the difference, as I am far from educated on the 870, but I believe the "Magnum" marked guns are still of Wingmaster quality, and pre- "Express" models the pricepoiont version.



There are folks sharper than me on this, we will likely hear from them.
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I can educate you. The express failures are 2 fold:

1) Poorly finished barrels result in jams. Rough chambers are a bear. But easily fixed with a flex hone and less than a minute of polish. There are a few other methods. But probably not as effective.

2) MIM extractors. Machined extractors suck. Better to have a non MIM which can be found in older guns.


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You mentioned the poorly finished barrels. I've seen a write-up about extraction problems can come from rough machining on the barrel extension.
The rim of the fired shell will hangup on the rough cuts left behind by the cutters.
I often say they call the gun "Express" because it is how fast they can make it!
 
The "Magnum" and the Wingmaster are the same guns. Difference is the fit and finish. Mostly the finish. High gloss bluing and stocks on the Wingmasters. Not so highly polished on lower end kit. Same gun though.
They all take the same barrels(Including Express 870's) so you can put a slug/fully rifled barrel on for deer in the early morning. Change barrels and hunt upland birds until the afternoon stint in the deer blind.
MIM parts are not in any way inferior to any other part.
 
Picked it up first thing this morning when they opened. Not a scratch or rust spot on it. All of the bluing is there. Except for some very tiny almost unnoticeable dings on the wood the gun appears to be bran new.

Its a 870 Wingmaster Magnum 12 with RemChok manufactured in 1989.

got it for $200 cash out the door.
 

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