Patriots

JacRyan

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What do you think the average citizen would say to you if you told them that you were a "patriot?" Doesn't it make you sick that they would think of you as a militant right wing nazi f*ck?

Now let's turn to the new movie with Mel
Gibson, "The Patriot." I'll bet that people walk out of the theater and forget the message by Monday morning.

Where does that leave us?
 
From a link referenced in another post yesterday:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>There is not state that does not have some kind of patriot activity, some very violent, some very extreme," said Dennis Molenaar, domestic violence expert.[/quote]

With press like that, I think the answer to your question is easy. :(

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I stand before Almighty God and I'll say what I have said for years. I will never again soil my responsibility as a voter by voting again for a candidate who turns their back on the fundamental principle of justice by which this nation's freedom lives or dies. --Alan Keyes, 2/2/2000
 
The USSA is a baffling state. It is the only one I know of where Patrioitism is discouraged and veiwed as detremental to the country. Even in hard-core communist countries, Patriotism was fostered, required, in the population. The Russians call WW2 "The Great Patriotic War".
It is clear that in past totalitarian states, patriotism was not veiwed by the rulers as a threat to their power. In the USSA, the ruling Oligarchs think differantly.
They veiw patriotism, or belief of any kind, as a threat.
Their goal is a perfectly apathetic, ignorant, population that believes in nothing.
This leads me to believe that the goals of our current Oligarchs would make Stalins' actions apear saintly in comparasion.
Then there's gun control...
 
England (which just about all of us consider to be a loser nation) discourages patriotism. It even discourages the violent game of musical chairs. I knew an exchange student and was thinking of going out with her. We took a drive through NY and she complained about all the American flags everywhere. She was proud that the UK was discouraging nationalism. She is a member of the loser-subset. She is back in loser-ville now.
 
I agree that 'patriot' is now considered an obsolete, and nearly a disparaged term. But, times change ...

And, with regards to 'The Patriot', certainly most people will ignore that part of the message [assuming, of course, that the message is there ... ;) ]. But, some will understand and remember.

However, winning back the hearts and minds of Americans to freedom will take movies, music and millions of conversations and meetings between friends, family, neighbors and co-workers. It is possible, just possible, that freedom and patriotism may flourish again ... it could even become fashionable for our youth to 'rebel' by embracing freedom.

Regards from AZ
 
We should strive to make it an honorable term again. Look at the word "gay". These folks over time have achieved a legally protected status! The media would have you think that is is fashionable to be gay.
We could do even better. Just resolve to resist the P.C. crowd and go. Be proud to call yourself a Patriot. If prople don't like you for it, so what?! Time will be on our side.
 
Hehe. Neat idea. Maybe we can get it covered by the newest legal fad, "Hate Crimes Legislation." Stiff penalties for persons found guilty of threatening or harming "patriots."

But you all are absolutely right. These days anyone described as a "patriot" is assumed by the majority to be unseemly at best.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Franklin W. Dixon:
Stiff penalties for persons found guilty of threatening or harming "patriots."
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Anyone attempting to harm THIS patriot, or his family, is going to have a LOT more to worry about than violating the law. I suspect that the same can be said for most of us here!
 
PATROIT T SHIRTS

Front- 2ND AMMENDMENT PATRIOT
supperimposed over a bullseye
target.

Back- The US Constitution
centered in a scope rectile
and the words:
democrats,take aim.

Or try our alternate tee shirt
back:
US Constitution on a chopping
block with one half cut off in
little slices
and a hand holding a meat
cleaver. On the blade of the meat
cleaver, the word : Democrats
 
Ernest, I would change "Democrats" to "Both Political Parties."


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John/az
"When freedom is at stake, your silence is not golden, it's yellow..." RKBA!
www.cphv.com
 
You mean like this?

choppers.jpg
 
Often, we don't know what we've got until it's lost. The problem today is erosion. I like to think the choices were more obvious then, but I don't know that for sure. We lose a little here, a little there, but life is good , the economy is good, and hey, it's not my problem . . . I found this a while back at guns.com I think. I keep it on the wall in my office. I pray I never have to make the choices these guys did, but if I ever do, I also pray I'll know when to lock & load (and have the balls), sooner, than later. M2

The Price They Paid ------------------- by Garry Hildreth, Erie, Pennsylvania

Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons in the revolutionary army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the revolutionary war.

They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor.

What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners, men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags.

Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward.

Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dllery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton.

At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washinton to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt.

Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months.

John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates.

Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor."

They gave you and I a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot of what happened in the revolutionary war. We didn't just fight the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government! Perhaps you can now see why our founding fathers had a hatred for standing armies, and allowed throught the second amendment for everyone to be armed

(two beers & I can't type -)



[This message has been edited by Mike in VA (edited June 12, 2000).]
 
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